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|    Jyeshta to All    |
|    Re: anyone out there?    |
|    11 Feb 07 10:44:06    |
      From: whatever@twixtntween.com              I wrote:              >> What you said in a prior post, about the urge to experience       >> physicality - to be able to run in a strong body - many cannot! To       >> taste favorite foods again - I believe all one need do is remember it       >> and the taste is experienced. I don't believe at all that the       >> prospect of physicality is attractive to the older discarnate soul or       >> entity.       >       >Well, but suppose you were unable to have an athletic or even a       >fit body in this life, but then you're done and you realize that for       >your next time around you can choose a body that's super-fit and       >maybe is even going to be able to travel to the stars -- the       >*physical* stars, not the vibrational perception of them that I       >suppose non-physical beings would have. That would be a pretty       >strong temptation, wouldn't it? I think it's a grass-is-always-       >greener kind of situation: when you're in the body, you long to be       >pure spirit, but when you're only spirit -- maybe then you long for       >the powers of the body? Why else would we keep coming back       >(which I believe we do)? Because of some kind of determinism?       >Well, maybe -- but I'd rather believe that I choose to return       >because there's something magnetic about being *here*, too.       >And in the absence of proof either way, I think I'll stay with that.              I guess we'll need to agree to disagree on that point, then. My       feeling is that in spirit, we *can* travel to the stars, or anywhere       we please, as quickly as the speed of thought. I also feel we can       assume astral bodies and experience sensation with them at the same       vibrational frequency we then inhabit - so we *can* see, smell, taste,       touch, hear!              I don't believe at all that we are eager, after hundreds of       incarnations, to jump into an incarnation of pure suffering, for       example. Sure, if we arrange to have a mostly happy life, maybe the       prospect of such an incarnation seems all right. But for the most       part, I do not think that older souls welcome additional incarnations,       at least not on this planet.              >> In any case, you didn't seem so condescending this time, and I       >> appreciate that.       >       >Thankyou! I'm also an eldest child (of three sisters) who had a       >working mom, so I was, in a way, a "teacher" long before I ever       >stepped into a formal classroom. Old habits die hard. Just smack       >me when I get on some high horse or other, will you?              I'm glad I didn't offend you. I wanted to be honest about how I felt.       Thanks. :-)              >C              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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