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   Message 2,227 of 2,497   
   Jyeshta to All   
   Re: anyone out there?   
   11 Feb 07 10:44:06   
   
   From: whatever@twixtntween.com   
      
   I wrote:   
      
   >> What you said in a prior post, about the urge to experience   
   >> physicality - to be able to run in a strong body - many cannot!  To   
   >> taste favorite foods again - I believe all one need do is remember it   
   >> and the taste is experienced.  I don't believe at all that the   
   >> prospect of physicality is attractive to the older discarnate soul or   
   >> entity.   
   >   
   >Well, but suppose you were unable to have an athletic or even a   
   >fit body in this life, but then you're done and you realize that for   
   >your next time around you can choose a body that's super-fit and   
   >maybe is even going to be able to travel to the stars -- the   
   >*physical* stars, not the vibrational perception of them that I   
   >suppose non-physical beings would have.  That would be a pretty   
   >strong temptation, wouldn't it?  I think it's a grass-is-always-   
   >greener kind of situation: when you're in the body, you long to be   
   >pure spirit, but when you're only spirit -- maybe then you long for   
   >the powers of the body?  Why else would we keep coming back   
   >(which I believe we do)?  Because of some kind of determinism?   
   >Well, maybe -- but I'd rather believe that I choose to return   
   >because there's something magnetic about being *here*, too.   
   >And in the absence of proof either way, I think I'll stay with that.   
      
   I guess we'll need to agree to disagree on that point, then.  My   
   feeling is that in spirit, we *can* travel to the stars, or anywhere   
   we please, as quickly as the speed of thought.  I also feel we can   
   assume astral bodies and experience sensation with them at the same   
   vibrational frequency we then inhabit - so we *can* see, smell, taste,   
   touch, hear!   
      
   I don't believe at all that we are eager, after hundreds of   
   incarnations, to jump into an incarnation of pure suffering, for   
   example.  Sure, if we arrange to have a mostly happy life, maybe the   
   prospect of such an incarnation seems all right.  But for the most   
   part, I do not think that older souls welcome additional incarnations,   
   at least not on this planet.   
      
   >> In any case, you didn't seem so condescending this time, and I   
   >> appreciate that.   
   >   
   >Thankyou!  I'm also an eldest child (of three sisters) who had a   
   >working mom, so I was, in a way, a "teacher" long before I ever   
   >stepped into a formal classroom.  Old habits die hard.  Just smack   
   >me when I get on some high horse or other, will you?   
      
   I'm glad I didn't offend you.  I wanted to be honest about how I felt.   
   Thanks. :-)   
      
   >C   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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