From: pagemail@swcp.com   
      
   > have to handle the tempertantrum right ... and the child is furious which   
   > they have to be to grow up and have some spiritual force of life in freedom   
   > like we try to do in the USA ... but is being sold out to Corporate whores   
   > like Swartznigger and their catholic nazi brotherhood.  But that is another   
   > matter.   
      
   How do you think the tantrum can be handled "right"?  We all   
   get angry as kids when we find we can't always have exactly what   
   we want exactly when we want it, and how parents react is often   
   dictated first by what *their* parents do with them under similar   
   circumstances, and then (if that doesn't work) by whatever the   
   prevailing theory of child development says is the best approach.   
   Yet our "Jonestowns" are, thankfully, few and far enough between   
   to be horrible shocks each time it happens again, so something is   
   working for the majority of us regardless of how adults treat the   
   problem of the crossed and angry brute ego in their children.   
      
   > if the tempertantrum is not handled well ... the child remains immature,   
   > petulant, pouting, angry, misguided, a fucked kid, who turns out to be a   
   > fucked adult ... no matter how well they present and how sugar and spice   
   > their words are ... they are in a tempertantrum demanding more time, more   
   > treasure, for you to roll, do it his way or the highway.   
   >   
   > it is how Jonestown happens .. not one of Jimmies 5 wifes could not let the   
   > koolaid drinker have his tempertantrum .. and go off have a swimming party,   
   > bbq, good time with their friends ... toodlelooo.  Jimmy was not interested   
   > in such invitations of playfullness.   
   >   
   > Was not brought up that way ... and his wifes were brought up to roll and   
   > pay off the tempertantrum.   
   >   
   > This immature person hates mom and dad inside ... so that sets up the whole   
   > sick ball game.   
      
   Or -- the immature person can also become unhealthily dependent   
   on mom or dad or both.  I don't see the situation as that cut-and-dried,   
   but very complex and changing all the time.  Generally speaking you   
   have to get to a pretty macro-macro level before one size fits all in   
   anything about human behavior and psychology.  This is what keeps   
   us from getting too bored with ourselves to live . . .   
      
   C   
      
   >   
   > Really.   
   >   
   > Hate mom inside ... and what is off outside is drugs, medicine, food,   
   > nuturance, recovery, therapy, healing, sabotaging therapy games, addictions,   
   > philosophy, religion, spirituality.   
   >   
   > Hate dad inside ... and what is off outside is making a home, putting a roof   
   > up, protecting the feminine creative space from molestation with boundaries   
   > of strength, taking in money, paying off debt, peace on earth is off.   
   >   
   > All because of a tempertantum and mom and dad rolling ... doing what ever   
   > they had to do to shut the little boy up.  Or girl ... or some times they   
   > beat them into shutting up ...so their tempertantrum is more forcefull and   
   > rigid in their defense structure.   
   >   
   > There is a lot here in what I posted to you Crow ...but you are a smart chap   
   > ... and if you got your mind wrap around this ... you got maybe 95% of what   
   > I got going on in turning this nut you are turning.   
   >   
   > sumbuddie on a clear channel   
   >   
   > :()   
      
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