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   Alan B. Mac Farlane to All   
   UK says Swine Flu is a nazi joke buy Oba   
   19 Nov 09 17:15:55   
   
   From: alanb@sonic.net   
      
   European scientists and health authorities are facing angry questions   
   about why H1N1 flu has not caused death and destruction on the scale   
   first feared, and they need to respond deftly to ensure public support.   
      
   Accusations are flying in British and French media that the pandemic has   
   been "hyped" by medical researchers to further their own cause, boost   
   research grants and line the pockets of drug companies.   
      
   Britain's Independent newspaper this week asked "Pandemic? What Pandemic?"   
      
   France's Le Parisien newspaper ran the headline: "Swine flu: why the   
   French distrust the vaccine" and noted a gap between the predicted   
   impact of H1N1 and the less dramatic reality.   
      
   "Although some 30-odd people have died....the disease is not really   
   frightening," it said. "Dangerous liaisons between certain experts, the   
   labs and the government, the obscurity of the contracts between the   
   state and the pharma firms have added to the doubt."   
      
   In response, scientists are walking a fine line. They say that although   
   the virus is mild, it can still kill, and that the relatively low   
   fatalities in Europe are in part, the result of official response to   
   their advice.   
      
   However, in Britain, health authorities' original worst-case scenario --   
   which said as many as 65,000 could die from H1N1 -- has twice been   
   revised down and the prediction is now for around 1,000 deaths, way   
   below the average annual toll of 4,000 to 8,000 deaths from seasonal   
   winter flu.   
      
   Sources:   
      
      Reuters November 12, 2009   
      
      The Flu Case November 5, 2009   
      
      Examiner November 3, 2009   
      
      New American November 12, 2009   
      
      
   Dr. Mercola's Comments:   
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        There is plenty to be optimistic about as it seems the tide may be   
   slowly turning on this swine flu debacle, showing it for the hoax it   
   really is.   
      
        European scientists are now demanding answers to the growing   
   inconsistencies.   
      
        And, while many so-called scientific experts have criticized me and   
   others who have spoken out about this senseless mass-vaccination   
   campaign, more of the scientific community is now coming to the same   
   conclusions we’ve been talking about for months.   
      
        It looks as though the swine flu pandemic of 2009 will go down as   
   one of the biggest government and pharmaceutical scams ever, renewing a   
   healthy, and necessary, skepticism about the swine flu vaccine and the   
   dubious dealings behind the implementation of worldwide mass-vaccination   
   programs.   
      
        On the upside, it has also created a more open debate about   
   vaccinations in general.   
      
        The childhood vaccination schedule is in dire need of an overhaul,   
   and the swine flu hysteria has actually opened many people’s eyes to the   
   unhealthy practices behind our vaccine policies. The public is finally   
   starting to wonder and question, en masse, what’s being injected into   
   them and their children.   
      
   Prominent Doctor and Health Minister Blast Swine Flu Vaccine and   
   Manufacturers   
      
        These healthy signs are starting to crop up everywhere.   
      
        For example, the Polish Health Minister Eva Kopacz recently told   
   Parliament that she, as a qualified family doctor with more than 20   
   years of experience, will not authorize the use of vaccines with   
   inadequate safety testing on millions of people in Poland.   
      
        In her speech she says:   
      
            “I have just one fundamental question: do we want to fight the   
   flu pandemic?   
      
            “Today we have knowledge about enclosures in agreements that   
   other governments of wealthier countries have signed with vaccines   
   producers. We also know what was proposed to Poland.   
      
            Due to negotiations in progress I can’t tell all today. But I   
   can tell one thing: our Law Department found at least 20 points of doubt   
   in the agreement.   
      
            So what is a Health Minister’s duty? To sign agreements that   
   are in the best interest of the Polish people, or to sign agreements   
   that are of best interest of pharmaceutical companies?   
      
            I know that there are three vaccines available on the market   
   today, from three different producers. Each has a different amount of   
   active substance, and yet strangely they are all treated the same.   
   Therefore, isn’t it fair enough for the Health Minister and the experts   
   to have the slightest doubts about it?   
      
            … And if [the vaccine] is so miraculous, then why don’t the   
   manufacturers want to introduce their medicine to the free market and   
   take responsibility for it?   
      
            Why wouldn’t they say: “Wonderful, this is a safe medicine,   
   therefore I will take responsibility for it. I will introduce it to the   
   market and everything is clear and transparent,” instead of dropping the   
   weight on us – the buyers.   
      
            We do not have clinical test results, no detailed ingredients   
   and no information about the side effects. The vaccines are now in the   
   4th stage of tests - very short tests, and we still do not have this   
   information. In addition, the samples have been very small. One kind of   
   vaccine was tested only on 160 volunteers aged 20-60, all healthy.   
      
            Another kind of vaccine was tested on 600 volunteers, aged   
   18-60, all healthy. Is this good enough, especially for us doctors   
   present in this room?   
      
            It is not good enough for me.   
      
            … Has anybody, anywhere, announced a pandemic because of   
   seasonal flu? And the seasonal flu is much more dangerous than swine   
   flu. There are deaths and severe complications. Was there ever a   
   pandemic announced before?   
      
            Those who push me to buy vaccines, I ask you: Why didn’t you   
   scream and shout last year, 2 years ago, and in 2003? In 2003 there were   
   1,200,000 Poles with seasonal flu! Has anybody shouted, here in this   
   room: “Let’s buy vaccines for everybody!”? I can’t recall such a thing.”   
      
   Bells Toll for Vaccine Maker   
      
        Sister Teresa Forcades i Vila, PhD, an Italian Benedictine nun, a   
   trained medical doctor, and the author of Crimes and Abuses of the   
   Pharmaceutical Industry – a 36-page study available in full at this link   
   -- is yet another voice of reason in the sea of swine flu madness.   
      
        I had an interview with her translated and transcribed into   
   English, which you can read in its entirety here.   
      
        Here’s an excerpt from her interview, questioning the sanity of   
   placing our unequivocal trust in a pharmaceutical company like Baxter:   
      
            “… Anyone can verify that the information I’m going to disclose   
   is accurate and objective.   
      
            … At the end of January 2009, before this new flu was   
   discovered, Baxter Pharmaceuticals, a US company with a very important   
   subsidiary company in Austria, distributed vaccination material for the   
   [seasonal] flu, from the Austrian subsidiary via neighboring European   
   countries – the Czech Republic, Slovenia and Germany – to 16 different   
   laboratories.   
      
      
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