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   Message 532 of 2,497   
   Raan to KimbaWLionATaolDOTcom@127.0.0.1   
   Re: Council for Secular Humanism   
   28 Aug 04 18:33:32   
   
   XPost: sci.psychology.psychotherapy, alt.consciousness, talk.origins   
   From: RaanOne@One.org   
      
   "CAndersen (Kimba)"  wrote in message   
   news:j611j01ui9fdbjvc7c9km3ukdnt8g3u5ei@4ax.com...   
   > "Raan"  wrote:   
   >   
   > >Belief is the fundamental cause of all human suffering.   
   >   
   > That's bullshit.   
   >   
   > The problem comes from within each person that causes suffering, they just   
   > use anything at hand as an excuse to do what they want to do. If people   
   > really followed Islam, there wouldn't be terrorism. If people really   
   > followed Christianity, people wouldn't end up tied to a fence and   
   murdered.   
   > The problem isn't in any belief, the problem is a desire to harm coupled   
   > with an ability to rationalize any external item into an excuse for it.   
   >   
      
   I did not limit it to just religious belief.   
   But the desire to harm? On what is that based?   
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