XPost: sci.psychology.psychotherapy, alt.consciousness, talk.origins   
   From: RaanOne@One.org   
      
   "david ford"  wrote in message   
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   > nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com (Nick Keighley) wrote in message   
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   > > "Raan"  wrote in message   
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   > > > "Nick Keighley"  wrote in message   
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   > > > > "Raan"  wrote in message   
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   > > > > > Never before have our challenges been so great.  Never has your   
   support   
   > > > > > been so important.   
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   > > > > > Secular humanism offers an alternative to dogmatism.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > the trouble is, posts like yours lead us to believe that "secular   
   humanism"   
   > > > > *is* dogmatism.   
   > > > >   
   > > > >    
   > > >   
   > > > How do you figure that and why do I need to ask this since you could   
   just as   
   > > > well have explained yourself.   
   > >   
   > > I suspect since you have to ask that you won't agree. Your original post   
   > > sounds like preaching. You even ask for money at the end!   
   >   
   > Religions typically need money to continue to survive.  The religion   
   > of secular humanism is no exception.   
   >   
   > > You try to conflate "science and reason" with "secularism and humanism".   
   >   
   > Like secular humanism, other religions often claim that "science" is   
   > on their side.   
   >   
   > > I find the statement "Much of the progress of the twentieth century can   
   be   
   > > directly attributed to the rise of secularism and humanism" contentious.   
   >   
   > If "progress" equals "mass killing," then the statement is accurate.   
   >   
   > > I'm left wondering if you had religious upbringing.   
      
   When do you begin to froth at the mouth?   
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