XPost: alt.dreams.lucid, alt.out-of-body   
   From: alanb@sonic.net   
      
   in article 4131e164$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net, Dick Silk at   
   dick_silk@anti-spam.net wrote on 8/29/04 7:02 AM:   
      
   > "Alan B. Mac Farlane"  wrote in message   
   > news:BD55CDFE.291A%alanb@sonic.net...   
   >> in article cgpjb8$2nbs$4@news.cybercity.dk, Laura at laura@nospam.me wrote   
   >> on 8/28/04 2:30 AM:   
   >> My God dont kill unborn children - they are already dead - My God just   
   >> dont   
   >> bring alive.   
   >>   
   >> See Exodus 21:22-27 if you want the bible version of what abortion looks   
   >> like when two men are having a fight and they do hurt a pregnant woman and   
   >> her life - her seed - her fetus do come out ... dead meat on the ground.   
   >>   
   >> All that is done is damages are paid through the judges what ever the   
   >> owner   
   >> of the woman be she slave or free - demands.   
   >>   
   >> However in Mosaic law from the God of Abraham says - if the pregnant woman   
   >> dies then wound for wound, life for life, soul for soul must be given up   
   >> from the person who killed her ... she has the breath of life in her, she   
   >> has soul, praetikus ... not the unborn child ... it is dead and will   
   >> remain   
   >> dead until God makes it come alive.   
   >>   
   >> hope that is a help to your explorations on the subject.   
   >   
   > I wonder how Moses (and the scriptures) would have turned out had they had   
   > the gifts of microscopes back then?   
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   same way --- the breath of life goes though the nostrils ... and is put   
   there by God ... the first sound any child makes at birth is the name of God   
   and the last sound any person makes at death - is the name of God.  All you   
   have to do is listen and pay attention to the fact pattern.  Moses could see   
   and it seems he saw better then you do right now ... if the Bible is wrong   
   about abortion and you are right about it - a microscope shows a living,   
   breathing, conscious, person in a bag a water from conception ... and only   
   you can see that living, breathing, conscious person and talk to it - and it   
   talks to you.  That is some gift of perception you have - that is shared by   
   other people who hear voices in their head - sometimes it is the voice of   
   Satan talking - and other times it is the voice of Jesus talking to them ...   
   unborn babies talking to you ... is understandable.  But still - Exodus   
   21:22-27 clearly shows that the unborn child is dead and will remain dead   
   until God makes it come alive - you see alive children at conception in a   
   microscope - well - who killed the living child at a stillborn.  Who does   
   the murder charge and goes to jail for killing a microscoped visible unborn   
   child - who you say is alive - and then it ends up dead.  Stillborn   
   spontanous abortions happen every day --- all those murders from a living   
   unborn child ... why are all those murders allowed to be free ... get all   
   those mommies in protective custody and do something right now to protect   
   the unborn child they are carring.   
      
   I think your name is Dick ... but you never sign off and own your words - so   
   I dont have a clue who I am talking to by the way.   
      
   sumbuddie on da watchtower   
      
   :)   
      
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