XPost: alt.dreams.lucid, alt.out-of-body   
   From: suzych@swcp.com   
      
   In article , "LH"   
    wrote:   
      
   > "Alan B. Mac Farlane"  wrote in message   
   > news:BD55CDFE.291A%alanb@sonic.net...   
   > > in article cgpjb8$2nbs$4@news.cybercity.dk, Laura at laura@nospam.me   
   > > wrote   
   > > on 8/28/04 2:30 AM:   
   > >   
   > > >> My God dont kill unborn children ... and my God dont screw around   
   > either.   
   >   
   > No, they choose to experience death before birth.   We're all little   
   > pieces   
   > of God and we "screw around", therefore, God screws around.   
   >   
   > > > Isn't that contradictory? I mean, if life starts at birth, then how   
   > > > can   
   > an   
   > > > unborn child possibly be killed?   
   > > > Or maybe I'm misunderstanding your point?   
   > >   
   > >   
   > > Hi Laura ... if life starts are birth - then a still born is murder ...   
   > > a   
   > > spontanous abortion is murder ... a man made abortion is murder --- all   
   > are   
   > > dead bodies after conception since in some minds God made the unborn   
   > > child   
   > > alive at conception ...   
   >   
   > Sorry, but by definition, doesn't murder involve at least two people?   
   >   
   > > If so - then God kills stillborns.   
   >   
   > No, they choose to experience death in the womb, that's all.  The mother   
   > chooses to experience a still born birth.  It's all about choices and   
   > experience.   
      
   Yep.  But reactionary Christianity demands that no choices be made   
   except by males/fathers/doctors.  Women aren't allowed to make them, not   
   about something that the Mighty Male Sperm has been involved with.  It's   
   just blowharditis by males who are furious that women can "create" life   
   in such an obvious, undeniable (and asethetically messy) way.  Womb   
   envy, in other words.   
   --   
   Crow   
      
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