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   Message 572 of 2,497   
   Raan to Atman   
   Re: Council for Secular Humanism   
   02 Sep 04 06:34:03   
   
   XPost: sci.psychology.psychotherapy, alt.consciousness, talk.origins   
   From: RaanOne@One.org   
      
   "Atman"  wrote in message   
   news:9fcdj09lrt1asjd919ecmu3i1e4ojf38kb@4ax.com...   
   > On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 22:51:17 +0000 (UTC), abnermintz@earthlink.net   
   > (Abner Mintz) wrote:   
   >   
   > >Atman  wrote:   
   > >> Secular Humanism has received a bad name due to actions taken by   
   > >> Communist states under the banner of state sponsored Secular Humanism.   
   > >   
   > >Um ... When did the communist states do *anything* in the   
   > > name of secular humanism?  If you have any evidence to   
   > > support this claim, I'd like to see it.   
   >   
   > The Communist Manifesto and Secular Humanism agree on many points in   
   > relation to religion, and have, therefore, been linked in the minds of   
   > many people.  You may not agree with the linkage, but your agreement   
   > or disagree does not change many people's views.   
   >   
   > So does your version of Secular Humanism support religious freedom for   
   > all.  Not the "freedom from religion" that some propose, but true   
   > freedom of religion where all points can be expressed and debated   
   > openly in public forums?  If it does then Secular Humanism is   
   > progressing positively.  If not, then it's just another misguided,   
   > repressive ideology in my view.   
      
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