XPost: sci.psychology.psychotherapy, alt.consciousness, talk.origins   
   From: mightymartianca@hotmail.com   
      
   bckwrds wrote:   
   > "AC"  wrote in message   
   > news:2qhm0cFvqiumU1@uni-berlin.de...   
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   > [major snippage to get to the point]   
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   >>>Atheism would not exist in any cultures where it not for the free-will,   
   >>>faith-based way   
   >>>That Christ has chosen to redeem us.   
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   >>Atheism exists because some people don't believe in God.  Hinduism   
   >>exists because some people believe in at least some members of the Hindu   
   >>pantheon, etc. ad nauseum.   
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   >>   
   >>>There are no atheist angels, and no atheist demons.   
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   >>CAn you provide me with any emperical evidence that any of these beings   
   >>exist, Davey?  Perhaps you missed one of the key p   
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   > 1) should have died in a head on car crash...only room for two cars on this   
   > road and I was the third....my car got a cratch in the point.  It was   
   > unbelieveable.   
   > I got out and looked my car over and over again....nothing was wrong.   
   >   
   > 2) was caught in the riptide with my sister as a young child.  We both   
   > screamed to our mom on the shore that we couldn't get in....that we were   
   > both being pushed further and further into the ocean. I could only barely   
   > touch the bottom with my tippy toes when I went under.   
   >  I said "God, help me!" God told me to take my sisters hand and walk in.   
   > I did just that and walked right in.   
   >   
   > 3) Playing at my aunts home.  Some cousins grapped a hold of an electric   
   > fence that my uncle had rigged so that the power never went off and had   
   > it at some super power level to keep his cows in.  This cousin found himself   
   > stuck to the line.  His brother grapped him to help pull him off only to   
   > find himself stuck....another person grapped onto him to help with the   
   > same result.  Three kids now being electrocuted in front of us all.  I asked   
   > God "what should I do???"  God told me to grap by cousins hand and   
   > to leaned back.  I did just that and we all came tumbling free.  Note that   
   > God didn't tell me to put my head down and plow into the first cousin   
   > to knock them all free....but to grap hold of a hand and pull them off...   
   > exactly what had caused them all to be stuck.  I not only listened, but   
   > obeyed.   
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   > It's called angels.   
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   > It's called God.   
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   > It's called the love of my Father.   
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   > It's called faith.   
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   > many many stories are on the news day after day after year after year.   
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   > Mystics?  HA   
      
   It's called ancedotal evidence.  Thousands of people die horrible deaths   
   every day, so why should angel's care about you?  Now if everyone was   
   mysteriously saved from nasty ends, then I might be more motivated to   
   look into it.   
      
   --   
   Aaron Clausen   
   mightymartianca@hotmail.com   
      
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