XPost: sci.psychology.psychotherapy, alt.consciousness, talk.origins   
   From: nick@SKIPTHESECAPSbackpack.com   
      
   In article , "Uncle Davey"    
   wrote:   
      
   > Użytkownik "bckwrds" napisał w wiadomości   
   > news:ci1p38$f6o$0$216.39.143.27@theriver.com...   
   > >   
   > > "AC" wrote in message   
   > > news:2qhm0cFvqiumU1@uni-berlin.de...   
   > >   
   > > [major snippage to get to the point]   
   > >   
   > >   
   > > > > Atheism would not exist in any cultures where it not for the   
   > free-will,   
   > > > > faith-based way   
   > > > > That Christ has chosen to redeem us.   
   > > >   
   > > > Atheism exists because some people don't believe in God. Hinduism   
   > > > exists because some people believe in at least some members of the Hindu   
   > > > pantheon, etc. ad nauseum.   
   > > >   
   > > > > There are no atheist angels, and no atheist demons.   
   > > >   
   > > > CAn you provide me with any emperical evidence that any of these beings   
   > > > exist, Davey? Perhaps you missed one of the key p   
   > >   
   > >   
   > > 1) should have died in a head on car crash...only room for two cars on   
   > this   
   > > road and I was the third....my car got a cratch in the point. It was   
   > > unbelieveable.   
   > > I got out and looked my car over and over again....nothing was wrong.   
   > >   
   > > 2) was caught in the riptide with my sister as a young child. We both   
   > > screamed to our mom on the shore that we couldn't get in....that we were   
   > > both being pushed further and further into the ocean. I could only barely   
   > > touch the bottom with my tippy toes when I went under.   
   > > I said "God, help me!" God told me to take my sisters hand and walk in.   
   > > I did just that and walked right in.   
   > >   
   > > 3) Playing at my aunts home. Some cousins grapped a hold of an electric   
   > > fence that my uncle had rigged so that the power never went off and had   
   > > it at some super power level to keep his cows in. This cousin found   
   > himself   
   > > stuck to the line. His brother grapped him to help pull him off only to   
   > > find himself stuck....another person grapped onto him to help with the   
   > > same result. Three kids now being electrocuted in front of us all. I   
   > asked   
   > > God "what should I do???" God told me to grap by cousins hand and   
   > > to leaned back. I did just that and we all came tumbling free. Note that   
   > > God didn't tell me to put my head down and plow into the first cousin   
   > > to knock them all free....but to grap hold of a hand and pull them off...   
   > > exactly what had caused them all to be stuck. I not only listened, but   
   > > obeyed.   
   > >   
   > > It's called angels.   
   > >   
   > > It's called God.   
   > >   
   > > It's called the love of my Father.   
   > >   
   > > It's called faith.   
   > >   
   > > many many stories are on the news day after day after year after year.   
   > >   
   > > Mystics? HA   
   > >   
   >   
   > It doesn't matter how many cases of this there are in the lives of people   
   > they know and even in their own lives, they will choose to ignore them under   
   > the banner of rationalism.   
   >   
   > One time I was driving on the road and one car overtaking me like a maniac   
   > had a head on collision with another car coming the other way. Both cars   
   > spun around and came to a halt in the road one in front of me and one behind   
   > me, each facing back the way they came. Since the road was not broad enough   
   > for them to spin around like that next to me without hitting me I could not   
   > work out how it had happened, and to this day there seems only one   
   > explanation.   
   >   
   > Uncle Davey   
      
   That God wanted you to be in the middle of a car wreck unharmed?   
      
    - Felix   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   
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