XPost: sci.psychology.psychotherapy, alt.consciousness, talk.origins
From: otoeremovethis@ix.netcom.com
In talk.origins I read this message from Double Felix
:
>In article , "Uncle Davey"
>wrote:
>
>> Użytkownik "bckwrds" napisał w wiadomości
>> news:ci1p38$f6o$0$216.39.143.27@theriver.com...
>> >
>> > "AC" wrote in message
>> > news:2qhm0cFvqiumU1@uni-berlin.de...
>> >
>> > [major snippage to get to the point]
>> >
>> >
>> > > > Atheism would not exist in any cultures where it not for the
>> free-will,
>> > > > faith-based way
>> > > > That Christ has chosen to redeem us.
>> > >
>> > > Atheism exists because some people don't believe in God. Hinduism
>> > > exists because some people believe in at least some members of the Hindu
>> > > pantheon, etc. ad nauseum.
>> > >
>> > > > There are no atheist angels, and no atheist demons.
>> > >
>> > > CAn you provide me with any emperical evidence that any of these beings
>> > > exist, Davey? Perhaps you missed one of the key p
>> >
>> >
>> > 1) should have died in a head on car crash...only room for two cars on
>> this
>> > road and I was the third....my car got a cratch in the point. It was
>> > unbelieveable.
>> > I got out and looked my car over and over again....nothing was wrong.
>> >
>> > 2) was caught in the riptide with my sister as a young child. We both
>> > screamed to our mom on the shore that we couldn't get in....that we were
>> > both being pushed further and further into the ocean. I could only barely
>> > touch the bottom with my tippy toes when I went under.
>> > I said "God, help me!" God told me to take my sisters hand and walk in.
>> > I did just that and walked right in.
>> >
>> > 3) Playing at my aunts home. Some cousins grapped a hold of an electric
>> > fence that my uncle had rigged so that the power never went off and had
>> > it at some super power level to keep his cows in. This cousin found
>> himself
>> > stuck to the line. His brother grapped him to help pull him off only to
>> > find himself stuck....another person grapped onto him to help with the
>> > same result. Three kids now being electrocuted in front of us all. I
>> asked
>> > God "what should I do???" God told me to grap by cousins hand and
>> > to leaned back. I did just that and we all came tumbling free. Note that
>> > God didn't tell me to put my head down and plow into the first cousin
>> > to knock them all free....but to grap hold of a hand and pull them off...
>> > exactly what had caused them all to be stuck. I not only listened, but
>> > obeyed.
>> >
>> > It's called angels.
>> >
>> > It's called God.
>> >
>> > It's called the love of my Father.
>> >
>> > It's called faith.
>> >
>> > many many stories are on the news day after day after year after year.
>> >
>> > Mystics? HA
>> >
>>
>> It doesn't matter how many cases of this there are in the lives of people
>> they know and even in their own lives, they will choose to ignore them under
>> the banner of rationalism.
>>
>> One time I was driving on the road and one car overtaking me like a maniac
>> had a head on collision with another car coming the other way. Both cars
>> spun around and came to a halt in the road one in front of me and one behind
>> me, each facing back the way they came. Since the road was not broad enough
>> for them to spin around like that next to me without hitting me I could not
>> work out how it had happened, and to this day there seems only one
>> explanation.
>>
>> Uncle Davey
>
>That God wanted you to be in the middle of a car wreck unharmed?
>
> - Felix
And does it follow then, that God wants those who are injured or
killed in auto accidents to be so?
Susan Silberstein
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