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   "CAndersen (Kimba)"  wrote in message   
   news:t593l01ttghrl1g3f73mavsucbglme7bd0@4ax.com...   
   > Love the pun in your subject line. :)   
   >   
   > >i had an out-of-body experience while i was awake.   
   > >[snip]   
   >   
   > I was very interested in your account. Are you able to put into words the   
   > nature and purpose of the energy you observed, or has the awareness faded?   
   > (It often doesn't persist past the time of the experience.)   
      
   no, i could not and cannot remember   
   what the purpose was.   
   i found it remarkable that something as   
   lowly as the atoms of a wall could seem   
   to have a modicum of awareness and   
   play a part of a greater purpose.   
   i do remember something about vibration.   
   it was as if everything was vibrating   
   at a sub-atomic level,   
   as if everything was disintegrating   
   and reintegrating in every half-moment.   
      
   >   
   > >anyway, i seem to have had a life full   
   > >of bizarre experiences, and i imagine   
   > >most people think i'm a bit odd, so i   
   > >don't usually talk about them.   
   >   
   > I know it's difficult, but the reason people think such things are odd is   
   > that no one talks about them. It's a self-perpetuating cycle, and thank   
   > you for breaking out of it!   
   >   
      
   you are welcome friend.   
      
   > >after i tell people about a couple weird   
   > >things that have happened to me, they   
   > >sort of give me a funny look and don't   
   > >inquire about the rest, as if they're afraid   
   > >of me, or what i have to say.   
   >   
   > I know what you mean. I have made a number of people shut up and go away   
   > just by talking about my experiences. The one about remembering a previous   
   > life as an animal usually does it. :) But your experiences and mine   
   > challenge fundamental things about the way people think about life, and   
   > most people don't like that, or don't know how to handle it.   
   >   
      
   i don't find it that surprising that someone   
   might incarnate as an animal.   
   which makes me think that we should   
   probably not kill for food anything that   
   demonstrates feelings and affection,   
   anything that nurtures it's young rather   
   than eating them!   
      
   > >i am working on something, but it's   
   > >very difficult.   
   > >i call it fundamental change.   
   > >what is the difference between one   
   > >entity's awareness and another?   
   > >what causes this difference?   
   > >what causes a person's level of   
   > >awareness, and what they are   
   > >capable of, to increase?   
   > >what controls the rate of increase?   
   > >what can one do, or not do, to   
   > >cause a fundamental change in   
   > >one's awareness?   
   > >incarnating works, forcing oneself   
   > >to experience physical life first hand,   
   > >one will become aware of nature,   
   > >of one's nature and relationship.   
   > >but what is the difference between   
   > >a life well-lived, and a life wasted?   
   > >no life is a waste, but some lives   
   > >cause a greater fundamental change   
   > >in a person.   
   > >no one really goes down, or backwards,   
   > >or from being fundamentally ahead to   
   > >fundamentally behind.   
   > >those who really have, have, and will   
   > >have more.   
   > >those who appear to lose, just never   
   > >really had it, they looked good for a   
   > >while, but couldn't maintain it, they   
   > >were not fundamentally where they   
   > >thought they were.   
   >   
   > A couple of points there are very important to me--how to raise people's   
   > awareness, and learning that "loss" is not what we think it is.   
   >   
   > >there is no judgment there.   
   >   
   > A very important point, and I'm in full agreement with you. Some people   
   > cling to the concept of judgment very tightly, however.   
   >   
   > >i realize that my abilities are very   
   > >limited compared to many.   
   > >but what to do to really move ahead,   
   > >to facilitate oneself, to be able to see   
   > >what one currently cannot see?   
   > >to not think about, to just live, to   
   > >forget about anything but living itself,   
   > >to just plow ahead doing what life   
   > >demands, and what most people   
   > >seem to be doing, keeping busy,   
   > >finding ways to keep busy, making   
   > >plans, saving, building, organizing,   
   > >whatever it takes to have a square   
   > >meal, a place to sleep, for oneself   
   > >and one's loved ones.   
   > >eventually one begins to question.   
   >   
   > And with the questioning, comes awareness.   
   > At least, that's how I see it.   
   >   
      
   definitely part of it.   
      
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