XPost: alt.consciousness   
   From: Be@Here.Now   
      
   On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 14:18:57 GMT, "Alan B. Mac Farlane"   
    wrote:   
      
   >in article dcldo059epqhgl5s298stsf6vcv6cvom9p@4ax.com, Atman at Be@Here.Now   
   >wrote on 11/1/04 6:00 PM:   
   >   
   >> Finally, the ideas presented in the movie fit  NDE experiences.  It's   
   >> amazing that people who have not experienced a NDE are putting into   
   >> words the feelings and insights I gained from my NDE, but have not   
   >> been able to express clearly, myself   
   >   
   >   
   >I agree with your points of sight and insight atman ... except for this   
   >one...   
   >   
   >from all the ndes I have had - the people who have not had them and then   
   >talk about them - keep missing it ... dispite their iditic memory in   
   >pointing out the sights in the dark room with a flash light - they can not   
   >put the whole room into perspective simply cause they have not been there.   
   >   
   >any how - that is from what I can put together on it at this time in my life   
   >...   
   >   
   >alan   
      
   Well, this was just in reference to my own, very subjective, personal   
   experience.  When I've described my NDE experience it always seems   
   lacking.  I've never been able to really communicate the real feeling   
   that my persona is not my true self, and that the common idea of   
   reality is extremely limited, and most of all, that sense that all is   
   at some very deep level all the same thing(all is One), just in   
   different forms.   
      
   But maybe it's my belief that it is hard to communicate these ideas,   
   feelings, and experiences that makes it hard to communicate these   
   ideas, feelings, and experiences.  Cutting through the crap (or seeing   
   through my illusions), can be a little tricky sometimes.   
      
   Atman   
   (aka Optional)   
      
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