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   Message 751 of 2,497   
   Roger Ruffner to All   
   Re: Deathbed visions.   
   18 Jan 05 23:08:46   
   
   XPost: alt.paranormal.reincarnation   
   From: rgrentcom@kcnet.com   
      
   What we call "science" today a thousand years from now (if our species still   
   exists) may well be called a religion.   
      
   However, what we call the "scientific method" will probably still be in   
   existance.  The biggest fallacy of this paradigm of fact proofing is to   
   attain to an experimental basis of investigative non-involvement   
   (objectivity in its purest form).  As such it is flawed; quantum physics   
   proves that subjective expectations on the part of the observer affects the   
   outcome of an experiment.  That which we expect affects what becomes 'real'   
   for us.   
      
   However, I must take issue that we ARE better off, in fact considerably   
   better off in many ways, than at most any other time in history. (I am not   
   saying that its a good thing to be better off).  Even animal life (in many   
   instances) is better off.   
      
   Better off isn't necessarily a good thing, since its whole concept is of the   
   short-term, the accumulation of 'lucky' instances.  Even species wide   
   'better off' is relatively short term in the sense of evolutionary mutation.   
      
   Humans once encouraged the concept and reality of mutually assured   
   destruction and nuclear war.  While we haven't laid that bugaboo to rest   
   permanently, great strides have been taken to make sure all of the planet   
   won't die.   
      
   We have figured out that to take care of our species on a long-term basis we   
   have to take care to maintain our environments and the animals that inhabit   
   them.  We have figured this out slowly, maybe too late, but some other   
   option may appear to save us, by accident or by our design.  We are nothing   
   if not adaptable, look at our evolution.  I'll be really impressed if we can   
   stick around longer than the dinosaurs.   
      
   Human kind is an ongoing mutation of body, mind, and soul.  Physically, our   
   evolution is pretty slow, as it is reactionary to the environments of the   
   earth.  Mentally, and I am speaking strictly from a view of mental as an   
   accumulation of knowledge and its application, we have passed several   
   watersheds of evolution just within the past 500 years. (Search Science of   
   Memetics)   
      
   Spiritual evolution is based upon a combination of these.  So much of what   
   is experienced physically and mentally crowds out the spiritual.  From an   
   evolution which supports death as an end, any species can become crowded   
   into extinction.  But from an evolution which supports ongoing life, there   
   must be an unforeseen element, a larger perspective and environment of which   
   the spirit is aware, because of its continuing existence.   
      
   That at least is my belief.   
      
   Rog   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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