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|    Your Name Here=Harvey to All    |
|    Re: If all this psychic stuff is real th    |
|    30 Jan 05 05:55:11    |
      XPost: alt.paranormal, alt.paranormal.reincarnation       From: kiwi@ing.notin.aus              In article <10vogdrg5089k85@corp.supernews.com>, rgrentcom@kcnet.com says...       >       >> ...we would have no missing persons as the psychic/remote viewer would be       >> able to tell us where they're at or buried. We have millions of missing       >> persons, so all this is just delusional thinking from those that cannot       >> accept reality.       >       >Since its part of what is being argued here, there aren't 'millions' of       >missing persons. There are millions of dead bodies that are being 'missed'       >and their souls know exactly where their 'being-ness' is (not here), and a       >few 100,000 missing (still living) persons, worldwide. This is an important       >fact to a later point. Among the 'missing dead' I'd guesstimate that very       >few are of sufficient emotional/spiritual energy to effect a desired       >transition between 'here' and 'there' for the purpose of communicating with       >loved ones.       >       >Creating a psychic connection to the living is difficult enough for psychics       >of any useful degree. To create a psychic connection to persons no longer       >on the physical plane is more difficult. The creation of any ongoing       >psychic connection in which useful (i.e. - physical world applicable data)       >information is gained is extremely difficult in the best of circumstances.       >       >The attachment between two minds, one of which has passed on, presents       >unique difficulties in understanding and communications. Different       >cultures, personalities, perceptions, experiences, times (not just       >calendar/clock time but subjective time rates too), all of these abide to       >interfere with psychic communication.       >       >When those that die, die, they lose their connection to their body. Thus so       >many bodies that are unfound because there is no link to them anymore. And,       >those that pass on, pass into a different place where they try to       >learn/remember how to get around; ongoing human physical interactions have       >suddenly become incredibly less important and necessary. For example, when       >we use the capacity of speech, a huge amount of energy transferred       >"in-system" which doesn't happen on the other side.       >       >Our will/awareness (soul) which is attached to our body wants to say "Hi" to       >another soul. The will moves the energy and the awareness directs it. The       >energy transfers from brain cells and breath to muscles and timing. The       >mouth begins to open, the breath pushes out, the vocal cords engage, and the       >vibration passes into the world, into the air for anyone to hear; the       >intended soul may or may not get the message because their "meat" is       >involved. The vibration in the air acts against the passive ear drums,       >which vibrate that energy into impulses which eventually make it to the       >brain.       >       >A filter there clicks in and may/may not allow the message to pass to the       >awareness; if you are already known to the soul behind the brain, the       >vibration of that energy will be the key and slip past the filter. The       >awareness recognizes the voice pattern, its timbre and pitch and timing, as       >well as the overall environment in which it hears it and additionally the       >context in which it is accepted WHICH IS AN INCREDIBLY HUGE AMOUNT OF       >PROCESSING ENERGY.       >       >When you pass to the other side, the will and awareness possess       >instantaneous perfect mind-to-mind communication, no meat involved. So it       >becomes a huge hassle to continue to deal with the meat world.       >       >Granted there are some dispossesed souls that can refuse to pass, who       >'hang-out' for whatever reason, trying to connect to the meat-world, to gain       >justice, vengeance, parity/fairness, whatever. Generally, these souls are       >misunderstanding their current place in their ongoing spiritual evolution       >(usually because of religious upbringing - but that is another argument for       >another time).       >       >These are the very few lost souls (I'd guess only about a couple hundred       >around the entire planet at any given moment) that true psychics tend to       >'pick up'. And, true psychics tend to be older souls, more concerned with       >aiding the lost soul to find their place in their current environment, not       >to help them with the meat world unless that is absolutely necessary to the       >ongoing well-being of other still-enfleshed souls. (John Edwards, case in       >point)       >       >The movies/television aside, the world of the 'dead' does not continually       >attempt to encroach upon the world of the living. On the other side, THE       >MEAT WORLD IS CONSIDERED EXTREEEEEEMMMMEEELLLY BORING. But its the only       >place where we can act upon and test our ongoing evolution. Evolution here       >is evolution there.       >       >My two cents, Saturday, 8PM, somewhere in the Americas.       >       >Rog       >       >              According to Plejaren (Billy Meier) information - it is possible for a       human body to contain up to 3? spirits - that when a person dies, and that       spirit wants to stay in this physical world, it is possible for that       discarnate spirit to inhabit a living body, (where of course, there is       already a spirit living there, it's rightful owner/user).       That psychologists are discovering this - and can convince that spirit       to leave, so that the person returns to normal.       I guess this can explain a person being mentally confused out of the blue,       or multiple personalities - and the so-called 'walk-in' in which a       different spirit appears to have taken over the body.              Harvey              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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