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   From: bitbucket@ripe.net   
      
   "Roger Ruffner"  wrote in message   
   news:10vogdrg5089k85@corp.supernews.com...   
   >> ...we would have no missing persons as the psychic/remote viewer would be   
   >> able to tell us where they're at or buried. We have millions of missing   
   >> persons, so all this is just delusional thinking from those that cannot   
   >> accept reality.   
   >   
   > Since its part of what is being argued here, there aren't 'millions' of   
   > missing persons.  There are millions of dead bodies that are being   
   > 'missed' and their souls know exactly where their 'being-ness' is (not   
   > here), and a few 100,000 missing (still living) persons, worldwide.  This   
   > is an important fact to a later point.  Among the 'missing dead' I'd   
   > guesstimate that very few are of sufficient emotional/spiritual energy to   
   > effect a desired transition between 'here' and 'there' for the purpose of   
   > communicating with loved ones.   
   >   
   > Creating a psychic connection to the living is difficult enough for   
   > psychics of any useful degree.  To create a psychic connection to persons   
   > no longer on the physical plane is more difficult.  The creation of any   
   > ongoing psychic connection in which useful (i.e. - physical world   
   > applicable data) information is gained is extremely difficult in the best   
   > of circumstances.   
   >   
   > The attachment between two minds, one of which has passed on, presents   
   > unique difficulties in understanding and communications.  Different   
   > cultures, personalities, perceptions, experiences, times (not just   
   > calendar/clock time but subjective time rates too), all of these abide to   
   > interfere with psychic communication.   
   >   
   > When those that die, die, they lose their connection to their body.  Thus   
   > so many bodies that are unfound because there is no link to them anymore.   
   > And, those that pass on, pass into a different place where they try to   
   > learn/remember how to get around; ongoing human physical interactions have   
   > suddenly become incredibly less important and necessary.  For example,   
   > when we use the capacity of speech, a huge amount of energy transferred   
   > "in-system" which doesn't happen on the other side.   
   >   
   > Our will/awareness (soul) which is attached to our body wants to say "Hi"   
   > to another soul.  The will moves the energy and the awareness directs it.   
   > The energy transfers from brain cells and breath to muscles and timing.   
   > The mouth begins to open, the breath pushes out, the vocal cords engage,   
   > and the vibration passes into the world, into the air for anyone to hear;   
   > the intended soul may or may not get the message because their "meat" is   
   > involved.  The vibration in the air acts against the passive ear drums,   
   > which vibrate that energy into impulses which eventually make it to the   
   > brain.   
   >   
   > A filter there clicks in and may/may not allow the message to pass to the   
   > awareness; if you are already known to the soul behind the brain, the   
   > vibration of that energy will be the key and slip past the filter.  The   
   > awareness recognizes the voice pattern, its timbre and pitch and timing,   
   > as well as the overall environment in which it hears it and additionally   
   > the context in which it is accepted WHICH IS AN INCREDIBLY HUGE AMOUNT OF   
   > PROCESSING ENERGY.   
   >   
   > When you pass to the other side, the will and awareness possess   
   > instantaneous perfect mind-to-mind communication, no meat involved.  So it   
   > becomes a huge hassle to continue to deal with the meat world.   
   >   
   > Granted there are some dispossesed souls that can refuse to pass, who   
   > 'hang-out' for whatever reason, trying to connect to the meat-world, to   
   > gain justice, vengeance, parity/fairness, whatever.  Generally, these   
   > souls are misunderstanding their current place in their ongoing spiritual   
   > evolution (usually because of religious upbringing - but that is another   
   > argument for another time).   
   >   
   > These are the very few lost souls (I'd guess only about a couple hundred   
   > around the entire planet at any given moment) that true psychics tend to   
   > 'pick up'.  And, true psychics tend to be older souls, more concerned with   
   > aiding the lost soul to find their place in their current environment, not   
   > to help them with the meat world unless that is absolutely necessary to   
   > the ongoing well-being of other still-enfleshed souls. (John Edwards, case   
   > in point)   
   >   
   > The movies/television aside, the world of the 'dead' does not continually   
   > attempt to encroach upon the world of the living.  On the other side, THE   
   > MEAT WORLD IS CONSIDERED EXTREEEEEEMMMMEEELLLY  BORING.  But its the only   
   > place where we can act upon and test our ongoing evolution. Evolution here   
   > is evolution there.   
   >   
   > My two cents, Saturday, 8PM, somewhere in the Americas.   
   >   
   > Rog   
      
      
   This is all fine, if true, but how can you prove what you say is true if on   
   the other instance you say the meat world is left behind and CONSIDERED   
   EXTREEEEEEMMMMEEELLLY BORING? Where do you illicit your information from if   
   the departed move on to an exciting new world?   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)