From: suzych@swcp.com   
      
   Good question.  There are some, I believe, who go into an NDE believing   
   whole-heartedly in this or that sectarian creed, who come out much   
   broadened and much more tolerant and ecumenical than they went in.  Does   
   that count as a "conversion"?   
      
      
      
   In article <90i68153icbatn6iheqsh5f0r9t1tumajj@4ax.com>,   
   Alistair@nothere.com wrote:   
      
   > How about those of us who went in the other direction?   
   >   
   > Dave   
   >   
   >   
   > On Thu, 12 May 2005 20:50:37 +0930, "Top Poster"   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   > >Hello   
   > >   
   > >This is your Captain speaking   
   > >   
   > >I'm looking for solid references of true Atheists being "converted" as a   
   > >result of NDE's. I'm not taking sides, just curious. In fact what I am   
   > >most   
   > >interested in is how widespread this phenomenon is. Armed with such   
   > >knowledge, it might be possible for us to advance our understanding of   
   > >the   
   > >causes and effects of NDE's.   
   > >   
   > >If the incidence is low, there might be a reason or reasons that deserve   
   > >further investigation.   
   > >   
   > >If the incidence is high, well, perhaps the non-believers out there   
   > >should   
   > >be doing some more of their own research. If it can happen to one   
   > >staunch   
   > >atheist then surely it can happen to any other.   
   > >   
   > >I see a great paradox in life and death for the atheists of the world.   
   > >Whether it is through their own choosing or not, they "trust" what their   
   > >minds are telling them more than they trust anything else. When their   
   > >minds   
   > >stays "playing tricks" on them as they get older (which of course is   
   > >their   
   > >own assessment of what happens), they will trust, more than anyone else,   
   > >that what they are experiencing is the truth. Because of their trust,   
   > >they   
   > >will be *absolutely* incapable of accepting that what they are   
   > >experiencing   
   > >is a hallucination. Ironically, they will feel the full force of the   
   > >hallucinations that they have spent their lives discrediting.   
   > >   
   > >I remain open-minded.   
   > >   
   > >TP   
   > >   
   >   
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