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|    Crowfoot to All    |
|    Re: Hello    |
|    14 May 05 01:25:08    |
      From: suzych@swcp.com              > atheists commonly write       > off the validity of NDE's by claiming that NDE's are hallucinations, or       > in       > other words, the mind "playing tricks". I believe that it is logical to       > assume that if NDE's do exist, their sphere of influence would not       > differentiate on the basis of one's spiritual beliefs. The irony here is       > that those who are the most dogmatic about the non-existence of NDE's are       > the ones who will likely be the most affected if/when they do happen,       > because such an event would represent a total contradiction to their       > belief system.              Ah; I think I see now what you were after. I misunderstood the       direction of your comments, clearly, and therefore addressed unintended       content that came from me, not from you. Apologies.              > if an atheist was to       > experience an NDE, whould that person admit to it, or would there be       > overriding factors, such as an unwillingness to finally admit that "real"       > is no longer real? Such an admission could be more traumatic for the       > individual than the experience itself.              Interesting; how to devise a test for this hypothesis? in the accounts       that I've read, there are indeed some NDE experiencers who claim to be       unaffected or who just don't want to talk about it at all, thankyou very       much, which might be interpreted as being unable to admit to the scope,       impact, and philosophical effect of the eent. But whether these persons       went into the experience as atheists is not always clear, so this type       of result doesn't seem to be solid evidence of the response that you       describe.              I would imagine (although I cannot prove) that, since atheists come in       many varieties just as religious do (in terms of general mindset,       responsiveness, passionate attachment to ideas, etc.), some would       respond as you suppose while others would come out of the NDE feeling       anywhere from completely confused by it to suddenly convinced of the       reality f "God" and determined to announce their new convictions at the       tops of their lungs.              Different strokes.       --       Crow              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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