From: suzych@swcp.com   
      
   > After all, matter is just slow energy stuck together, and energy is   
   > just that which effects matter or other energy.   
      
   Yep, that's my understanding too.   
      
   > . . . Bell's theorem seems to imply that there is no reality   
   > separate from consciousness.  And Enstiem's relativity mathematically   
   > states that at the speed of light time stops and becomes a singular   
   > "Now" where all is happening at once, and space expands infinitely to   
   > a non-local, singular "Here".  (so "Be Here Now" is consciousness at the   
   speed of light, lol)   
   >   
   > I just love this physics stuff!   
      
   It's wonderful and, of course, mystical, which is why the people who   
   play around with it for years tend to start talking about "God" and "the   
   numinous" etc.  Thing is, though, you can't think about it long (we   
   non-math people, that is) at the level of "no reality separate from   
   consciousness" because -- it just stops you dead.  To live reasonably   
   well one must keep moving within the reality that we've made.  The part   
   of this that I love is its inescapably paradoxical nature:   
      
   In order to survive, we must deal with perceived reality as if it were   
   really real, even if we "know" on an abstract level that it's all just   
   streams and packets of energy -- because until you are ready to actually   
   exist on that abstract level (and who knows, maybe beyond -- I wouldn't   
   know, never got there), you must live on the level of perceived reality   
   of get squashed by the rules of physics themselves: mass, gravity,   
   speed, the lot.   
      
   And physics has no moral dimension, but we do -- perhaps our function is   
   to *provide* the moral dimension, even though it's entirely unnecessary   
   (to the moons, say, of Jupiter and their pathways, or the lives of   
   paramecia).   
      
   And an individual life is a mere firefly-flash, of no significance at   
   all in the larger (MUCH larger) scheme of things -- but we must handle   
   our life as if it had significance, or lose its flavor and lose our way.   
      
   And there is no grand design, only the entertainment value of the plot,   
   which is provided by the criss-crossing pathways of karmic debts and   
   payments -- and yet one tries hard to avoid karmic debt, to stand   
   outside of this dance (which means nothing outside of itself besides a   
   constant rebalancing of that which our actions have tipped one way or   
   another), although we are here to be/do the dance.   
      
   Lovely, maddening, crazy.  And inescapable.   
      
   SMC   
      
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