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|    Mitchell Holman to None    |
|    Re: DNA Proves Humans Are NOT An Acciden    |
|    29 Sep 25 01:54:00    |
      [continued from previous message]              >> > > > > > > > > > > embellishment added       >> > > > > > > > > > > by       >> > > > > > > > > > > some scribe to "beef up" Paul's account, or Paul       >> > > > > > > > > > > himself is just storytelling. Nowhere is this       >> > > > > > > > > > > supposed "mass apparition" ever       >> > > > > > > > > > > mentioned       >> > > > > > > > > > > anywhere else, either elsewhere in the New       >> > > > > > > > > > > Testament or in secular sources, and none of the       >> > > > > > > > > > > 500 are ever named, nor did any of them       >> > > > > > > > > > > leave       >> > > > > > > > > > > any surviving accounts of their own individual       >> > > > > > > > > > > experiences, or convey       >> > > > > > > > > > > those experiences to anyone else.       >> > > > > > > > > > >       >> > > > > > > > > > > As with the "crucifixion darkness," the       >> > > > > > > > > > > appearances to 500 human beings       >> > > > > > > > > > > lacks contextual credibility, as it only gets       >> > > > > > > > > > > mentioned in one single       >> > > > > > > > > > > source, when, in fact, it should have been       >> > > > > > > > > > > mentioned in dozens of independent sources if, in       >> > > > > > > > > > > fact, it had happened.       >> > > > > > > > > >       >> > > > > > > > > > It was. It is mentioned by others in the NT. Most       >> > > > > > > > > > notable John, Matthew       >> > > > > > > > > > Luke,       >> > > > > > > > > > Mark.       >> > > > > > > > > >       >> > > > > > > > > > Paul was not an eyewitness of Jesus at that time.       >> > > > > > > > > > Paul saw him for the       >> > > > > > > > > > first       >> > > > > > > > > > time on the road to Damascus       >> > > > > > > > > >       >> > > > > > > > > > 1Co 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that       >> > > > > > > > > > which I also received,       >> > > > > > > > > > how that Christ died for our sins according to the       >> > > > > > > > > > scriptures;       >> > > > > > > > > >       >> > > > > > > > > > 1Co 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose       >> > > > > > > > > > again the third day       >> > > > > > > > > > according to the scriptures:       >> > > > > > > > > >       >> > > > > > > > > > 1Co 15:5 And that he was seen of Cephas, then of       >> > > > > > > > > > the twelve:       >> > > > > > > > > >       >> > > > > > > > > > 1Co 15:6 After that, he was seen of above five       >> > > > > > > > > > hundred brethren at once;       >> > > > > > > > > > of       >> > > > > > > > > > whom the greater part remain unto this present, but       >> > > > > > > > > > some are fallen asleep.       >> > > > > > > > > >       >> > > > > > > > > > 1Co 15:7 After that, he was seen of James; then of       >> > > > > > > > > > all the apostles.       >> > > > > > > > > >       >> > > > > > > > > > 1Co 15:8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as       >> > > > > > > > > > of one born out of       >> > > > > > > > > > due       >> > > > > > > > > > time.       >> > > > > > > > > >       >> > > > > > > > > > Jesus then taught Paul in the desert for during a       >> > > > > > > > > > time of three years.       >> > > > > > > > > >       >> > > > > > > > > > Gal 1:11 But I certify you, brethren, that the       >> > > > > > > > > > gospel which was preached       >> > > > > > > > > > of       >> > > > > > > > > > me is not after man.       >> > > > > > > > > >       >> > > > > > > > > > Gal 1:12 For I neither received it of man, neither       >> > > > > > > > > > was I taughtit, but       >> > > > > > > > > > by       >> > > > > > > > > > the       >> > > > > > > > > > revelation of Jesus Christ.       >> > > > > > > > > >       >> > > > > > > > > > Gal 1:13 For ye have heard of my conversation in       >> > > > > > > > > > time past in the Jews'       >> > > > > > > > > > religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the       >> > > > > > > > > > church of God, and       >> > > > > > > > > > wasted       >> > > > > > > > > > it:       >> > > > > > > > > >       >> > > > > > > > > > ***       >> > > > > > > > > >       >> > > > > > > > > > Gal 1:17 Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them       >> > > > > > > > > > which were apostles before       >> > > > > > > > > > me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto       >> > > > > > > > > > Damascus.       >> > > > > > > > > >       >> > > > > > > > > > Gal 1:18 Then after three years I went up to       >> > > > > > > > > > Jerusalem to see Peter, and       >> > > > > > > > > > abode with him fifteen days.       >> > > > > > > > > >       >> > > > > > > > > > Gal 1:19 But other of the apostles saw I none, save       >> > > > > > > > > > James the Lord's brother.       >> > > > > > > > > >       >> > > > > > > > > > Gal 1:20 Now the things which I write unto you,       >> > > > > > > > > > behold, before God, I       >> > > > > > > > > > lie       >> > > > > > > > > > not.       >> > > > > > > >       >> > > > > > > > This was an interesting read. At first I thought you       >> > > > > > > > were writing a synopsis       >> > > > > > > > of one of his writings, but such does not appear to be       >> > > > > > > > the case. I have       >> > > > > > > > not       >> > > > > > > > studied his works, but I briefly reviewed some of the       >> > > > > > > > comments made by others       >> > > > > > > > who have their own views of what he wrote. Sadly it is       >> > > > > > > > difficult to comment       >> > > > > > > > on them since I would have to study up on Paine in       >> > > > > > > > order to know something       >> > > > > > > > about him, and it would have to be mainly the things       >> > > > > > > > written by his hand,       >> > > > > > > > not       >> > > > > > > > based on the comments of others, unless they were peer       >> > > > > > > > friends of his, personally.       >> > > > > > > >       >> > > > > > > > What little I read this morning, was a whole lot of       >> > > > > > > > things supposedly of       >> > > > > > > > what       >> > > > > > > > he said and thought, but it was clear that people       >> > > > > > > > cherry picked phrases       >> > > > > > > > that       >> > > > > > > > lent themselves to support their personal agendas.       >> > > > > > > > According to what you       >> > > > > > > > outlined it would seem that Paine had at best a shallow       >> > > > > > > > and limited understanding of the Bible, and virtually       >> > > > > > > > no personal knowledge of God.       >> > > > > > > >       >> > > > > > > > I will make a brief comment to each numeric point. LOL,       >> > > > > > > > hopefully brief.       >> > > > > > > > >       >> > > > > > > > > An interesting contradiction occurs with Paul's       >> > > > > > > > > testimony, which was pointed out by Thomas Paine, one       >> > > > > > > > > of America's founding fathers. Here       >> > > > > > > > > it       >> > > > > > > > > is in outline form:       >> > > > > > > > >       >> > > > > > > > > 1) Paul, while being a Jew, claims to have persecuted       >> > > > > > > > > Christians, a claim also made about him by the author       >> > > > > > > > > of Acts.       >> > > > > > > >       >> > > > > > > > This point shows and gives an understanding of how       >> > > > > > > > little attention he paid       >> > > > > > > > to the NT.       >> > > > > > > > It is obvious that he was a chief persecutor and he       >> > > > > > > > explained why.       >> > > > > > > >       >> > > > > > > > >       >> > > > > > > > >       >> > > > > > > > > 2) When someone persecutes another, especially, a       >> > > > > > > > > strange, it is because you do not like what that       >> > > > > > > > > person has done, is saying, and/or       >> > > > > > > > > certain viewpoints that they, as a group, hold to.       >> > > > > > > > > (As an example, it is possible for a Jew and a Muslim       >> > > > > > > > > to hate each other even though they       >> > > > > > > > > have never met.)       >> > > > > > > >       >> > > > > > > > That would describe his agenda for those he persecuted.       >> > > > > > > > He took the attitude       >> > > > > > > > of a Muslim towards the destruction of all those who       >> > > > > > > > opposed his religious       >> > > > > > > > mindset, under the authority of the High Priest of his       >> > > > > > > > day.              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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