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   From: none@none.non   
      
   On Sep 29, 2025, Dawn Flood wrote   
   (Message-ID: <10bf1p4$3a98e$1@dont-email.me>):   
      
   > On 9/29/2025 1:21 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:   
   > > None   wrote in news:10bd61d$2qa7f$1@dont-email.me:   
   > >   
   > > > On Sep 28, 2025, Dawn Flood wrote   
   > > > (Message-ID: <10bd4bd$2pve1$1@dont-email.me>):   
   > > >   
   > > > > On 9/28/2025 11:37 PM, None wrote:   
   > > > > > On Sep 28, 2025, Mitchell Holman wrote   
   > > > > > (Message-ID: ):   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > The seven stars of the Pleiades   
   > > > > > > > are noted as being fixed in the skies, which was hotly   
   > > > > > > > contested as well, and by ’science’. A few years   
   > > > > > > > ago it was decided by the same   
   > > > > > > > people that yes, they are fixed. As the bible determined them   
   > > > > > > > to be. They used a different term for their positioning lest   
   > > > > > > > them fall into the religious trap. The North Star has been used   
   > > > > > > > for navigation both on land and on water for that reason.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Wrong.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > No stars are "fixed" in the sky. The   
   > > > > > > solar system is moving around the center   
   > > > > > > of the galaxy at 518,000 mph. In addition   
   > > > > > > it moves vertcally within the galactic   
   > > > > > > plane. Ergo all the stars we see are moving   
   > > > > > > relative to our position. Just because our   
   > > > > > > lifetimes are too short to notice it does   
   > > > > > > not mean it is not happening.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Not only do I accept and believe the word of God above Man as well   
   > > > > > as over the evil one, I also have done a certain amount of research   
   > > > > > on the subject as   
   > > > > > to astronomy and the sciences, keep abreast of things that go one   
   > > > > > and the discoveries, and while the wording of the scientists did   
   > > > > > not match the bible word of word, what they discovered they said   
   > > > > > exonerated what the bible said, but with scientific evidences, say   
   > > > > > like their positions remained consistent with the placement of the   
   > > > > > earth. Which, as a matter of fact inspire of the megaflow's of   
   > > > > > tsunamis which far exceeded any nuclear group of forces. Yet while   
   > > > > > it changed the axis of the earth the earth remained fixed in its   
   > > > > > orbit.   
   > > > > > Forces like that would knock most planets off their positions.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > How do you know that the Bible was not being symbolic (again)?   
   > > >   
   > > > There is and was no reason for symbolism.   
   > >   
   > >   
   > > That is a refreshing change from   
   > > Artie/Joe and his "That nonsensical   
   > > story is just a metaphor" and "That   
   > > passage was just written as symbolism"   
   >   
   > It goes to show you that the Bible is incapable of providing its own   
   > self-evident interpretation; instead, human beings must decide such   
   > things, and they (we) cannot agree. I have better things to do with my   
   > time!   
      
   “Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all   
   truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that   
   shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.” (Jhn 16:13)   
      
   If you should be interested read the first part of that Chapter for those   
   that believe in and upon him, for these were the words of Jesus   
      
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