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   From: Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com   
      
   On 9/29/2025 8:29 PM, None wrote:   
   > On Sep 29, 2025, Dawn Flood wrote   
   > (Message-ID: <10bf1p4$3a98e$1@dont-email.me>):   
   >   
   >> On 9/29/2025 1:21 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:   
   >>> None   wrote in news:10bd61d$2qa7f$1@dont-email.me:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On Sep 28, 2025, Dawn Flood wrote   
   >>>> (Message-ID: <10bd4bd$2pve1$1@dont-email.me>):   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On 9/28/2025 11:37 PM, None wrote:   
   >>>>>> On Sep 28, 2025, Mitchell Holman wrote   
   >>>>>> (Message-ID: ):   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> The seven stars of the Pleiades   
   >>>>>>>> are noted as being fixed in the skies, which was hotly   
   >>>>>>>> contested as well, and by ’science’. A few years   
   >>>>>>>> ago it was decided by the same   
   >>>>>>>> people that yes, they are fixed. As the bible determined them   
   >>>>>>>> to be. They used a different term for their positioning lest   
   >>>>>>>> them fall into the religious trap. The North Star has been used   
   >>>>>>>> for navigation both on land and on water for that reason.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Wrong.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> No stars are "fixed" in the sky. The   
   >>>>>>> solar system is moving around the center   
   >>>>>>> of the galaxy at 518,000 mph. In addition   
   >>>>>>> it moves vertcally within the galactic   
   >>>>>>> plane. Ergo all the stars we see are moving   
   >>>>>>> relative to our position. Just because our   
   >>>>>>> lifetimes are too short to notice it does   
   >>>>>>> not mean it is not happening.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Not only do I accept and believe the word of God above Man as well   
   >>>>>> as over the evil one, I also have done a certain amount of research   
   >>>>>> on the subject as   
   >>>>>> to astronomy and the sciences, keep abreast of things that go one   
   >>>>>> and the discoveries, and while the wording of the scientists did   
   >>>>>> not match the bible word of word, what they discovered they said   
   >>>>>> exonerated what the bible said, but with scientific evidences, say   
   >>>>>> like their positions remained consistent with the placement of the   
   >>>>>> earth. Which, as a matter of fact inspire of the megaflow's of   
   >>>>>> tsunamis which far exceeded any nuclear group of forces. Yet while   
   >>>>>> it changed the axis of the earth the earth remained fixed in its   
   >>>>>> orbit.   
   >>>>>> Forces like that would knock most planets off their positions.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> How do you know that the Bible was not being symbolic (again)?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> There is and was no reason for symbolism.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> That is a refreshing change from   
   >>> Artie/Joe and his "That nonsensical   
   >>> story is just a metaphor" and "That   
   >>> passage was just written as symbolism"   
   >>   
   >> It goes to show you that the Bible is incapable of providing its own   
   >> self-evident interpretation; instead, human beings must decide such   
   >> things, and they (we) cannot agree. I have better things to do with my   
   >> time!   
   >   
   > “Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all   
   > truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that   
   > shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.” (Jhn 16:13)   
   >   
   > If you should be interested read the first part of that Chapter for those   
   > that believe in and upon him, for these were the words of Jesus   
   >   
      
   As I said, I have better things to do with my time!   
      
   Dawn   
      
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