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   From: none@none.non   
      
   On Sep 29, 2025, Mitchell Holman wrote   
   (Message-ID: ):   
      
   > None   wrote in news:10bd2dd$2plol$1@dont-email.me:   
   >   
   > > On Sep 28, 2025, Mitchell Holman wrote   
   > > (Message-ID: ):   
   > >   
   > > > > The seven stars of the Pleiades   
   > > > > are noted as being fixed in the skies, which was hotly contested as   
   > > > > well, and by ’science’. A few years ago it was   
   > > > > decided by the same people that yes, they are fixed. As the bible   
   > > > > determined them to be. They used a different term for their   
   > > > > positioning lest them fall into the religious trap. The North Star   
   > > > > has been used for navigation both on land and on water for that   
   > > > > reason.   
   > > >   
   > > > Wrong.   
   > > >   
   > > > No stars are "fixed" in the sky. The   
   > > > solar system is moving around the center   
   > > > of the galaxy at 518,000 mph. In addition   
   > > > it moves vertcally within the galactic   
   > > > plane. Ergo all the stars we see are moving   
   > > > relative to our position. Just because our   
   > > > lifetimes are too short to notice it does   
   > > > not mean it is not happening.   
   > >   
   > > Not only do I accept and believe the word of God above Man as well as   
   > > over the evil one,   
   >   
   > Astronomy is "the evil one"?   
   >   
   > > I also have done a certain amount of research on   
   > > the subject as to astronomy and the sciences, keep abreast of things   
   > > that go one and the discoveries, and while the wording of the   
   > > scientists did not match the bible word of word, what they discovered   
   > > they said exonerated what the bible said, but with scientific   
   > > evidences, say like their positions remained consistent with the   
   > > placement of the earth. Which, as a matter of fact inspire of the   
   > > megaflow's of tsunamis which far exceeded any nuclear group of forces.   
   > > Yet while it changed the axis of the earth the earth remained fixed in   
   > > its orbit.   
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   > The Bible doesn't say the earth is   
   > "fixed in its orbit". The word "orbit" isn't   
   > in the Bible. It says the Earth is fixed.   
   > As in immovable. As in doesn't orbit or   
   > rotate at all.   
   >   
   > 1 Chronicles 16:30: "He has fixed the earth firm, immovable."   
      
   “Fear before him, all the earth: the world also shall be stable, that it be   
   not moved.” (1Ch 16:30)   
      
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   > Psalm 93:1: "Thou hast fixed the earth immovable and firm ..."   
      
   “The LORD reigneth, he is clothed with majesty; the LORD is clothed with   
   strength, wherewith he hath girded himself: the world also is stablished,   
   that it cannot be moved.” (Psa 93:1)   
      
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   > Psalm 96:10: "He has fixed the earth firm, immovable ..."   
      
   “Say among the heathen that the LORD reigneth: the world also shall be   
   established that it shall not be moved: he shall judge the people   
   righteously.” (Psa 96:10)   
      
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   > Psalm 104:5: "Thou didst fix the earth on its foundation   
   > so that it never can be shaken."   
      
   “Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for   
   ever.” (Psa 104:5)   
      
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   > Isaiah 45:18: "...who made the earth and fashioned   
   > it, and himself fixed it fast..."   
      
   “For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed   
   the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he   
   formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.” (Isa   
   45:18)   
      
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   > Is the Bible right, or is science right?   
      
   The Bible is the correct, your understanding of it isn’t.   
   Science? It is incomplete. Subject to change. They grab things by their tails   
   and work to the head, it overwhelms them.   
      
   BTW Look out tonight, look up into the sky. Does the moon look flat? Why can   
   you see the shady side of the moon. Why is there a shady side with valleys   
   and mountains? Why does a large boulder in the evening or morning have a   
   sunny side and a shady side clearly defined? Do you really think you are   
   smarter than a man 4,000 years ago who could see things clearer without all   
   the pollution?   
      
   Do you really think that the men of old did not see the earth move as a   
   result of earthquakes, That they did not see the earth open up and swallow up   
   people and their habitations that they never saw rock slides or caves? That   
   they had no ships to sail the high seas? They were far more in touch and in   
   tune with nature than men in out time.   
      
   They built pyramids with rooms and tunnels science has yet to know how they   
   did it with certainty.   
   Made mummies our of their mommies.   
      
   Their lexicon is hardly understood, today, and part of that misunderstanding   
   carries over to the modern day translations of the Bible in English, Forever   
   does not alway be forever as into eternity and that is just a small sample of   
   why it is so difficult for many to comprehend the Bible and they often take   
   snippets or soundbites out of context to construe what was not meant of   
   implied.   
      
   I realize that you are more than likely totally disinterest in knowing and   
   understanding these things for a person who is disinterested and is hell   
   bent, one can only shed a bit of light, as they will instinctively try to   
   trash every thing presented to them. Truth matters not to them.   
      
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   > > God, who created the earth and all upon it, did it for a purpose, and   
   > > the people upon it as well as all forms of life he is deeply involved   
   > > with it, so much that he offered up his son as a sacrifice to save all   
   > > the images created in his likeness. Those who willing to accept his   
   > > personal great sacrifice, that his Son was likewise willing to go   
   > > through what he did out of his great love for us. Those who refuse   
   > > Christ Jesus and chose to follow Lucifer, and dwell with the same   
   > > pride as did he, will suffer just like Satan and all his angels who   
   > > believed his con job and flim flam that he fed them. Which he tries to   
   > > do with man who he knows was made in the image of God, whom he hates.   
   > > We, are the apple of Gods eye, he created everything in this world for   
   > > us, with the intention that everything here would support our physical   
   > > needs while he supplies our spiritual needs. Yet like all his   
   > > creatures including the Angelic hosts he gave us free will, and in the   
   > > case of this world he gave us dominion over it and the creatures   
   > > therein. What a wonderful God, that helps those that are willing to   
   > > receive it.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)