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   JTEM to All   
   Youtube Video: The Real Story Behind the   
   22 Oct 25 15:47:03   
   
   XPost: sci.skeptic, alt.atheism, alt.alien.research   
   XPost: alt.paranormal   
   From: jtem01@gmail.com   
      
   DISCLOSURE:  I included alt.paranormal because for some reason   
   or another, and nobody ever explained it to me, aliens/UFOs   
   are grouped with the paranormal.   
      
      
      
   https://youtu.be/uNix0UImPpo?si=MEvWa0y-GKFOp67R   
      
   One massive complaint is their example of the scientific process.   
      
   Nope.   
      
   A hypothesis explains the evidence AND is the basis for predictions.   
      
   These predictions are subject to scientific experimentation.   
      
   IT'S THESE PREDICTIONS WHICH CAN BE FALSIFIED!  The experimentation,   
   if it fails to produce the predicted result, FALSIFIES the   
   hypothesis.   
      
   NOTE:  This is why Gwobull Warbling is fake. DECADES of falsified   
   predictions yet the conclusions are still clung to like a drowning   
   man holding a life preserver...   
      
   Now, the "Science" they describe tries to "Prove" alternative   
   explanations for the evidence of life on Mars -- explanations that   
   do not require life. They failed. These alternatives they tested   
   were falsified, or so the video tells us. That those can't possibly   
   "Prove" that there's life on Mars. To do that you need to make   
   some "Sound Scientific Inferences," i.e. predictions, and then test   
   THOSE!   
      
   NOTE II:  I'm on record stating that NASA isn't looking for life   
   on Mars. Or they're lying to us. And you know this for a fact because   
   I just told you, of course...   
      
   Okay, so NASA actually stated that they were avoiding the areas they   
   viewed as most likely to support life. Their reasons, as they explained,   
   was that they were afraid of contaminating those places with life from   
   earth that maybe clung to the rover. "Contamination." KEEP THIS IN MIND.   
      
   NASA's optics can't see most bacterial life on earth, and it it can't   
   possibly see the structures in the famous "Mars Rock" that are believed   
   by many to be fossilized life.   
      
   Put the two together -- avoiding places most likely to support life   
   right now, optics that can't see the vast majority of earth microbes --   
   and either NASA isn't searching at all, or they're searching for   
   something very specific.   
      
   Go back to NASA's excuse for avoiding the most promising locations:   
      
   They're worried about seeding them with earth contamination on the   
   rovers.   
      
   Ive got news for you:  We are *Way* better at decontaminating our   
   space missions today than we were in the past, and we're not really   
   great at it today. So if it is an issue now, earth contamination, it   
   has been an even bigger issue over the past 60 years or so...   
      
   Look. Even missions never intended to land on Mars were likely   
   sources of contamination. How? SOME WERE LOST! For all we know they   
   crashed on Mars!  And if they were a lot worse at decontaminating   
   their vehicles back then than we are now, and we're not great at it   
   now, there is a very real possibility that Mars has been contaminated.   
      
   What do you do?   
      
   Well you assume that Mars has been contaminated. So if we want Mars   
   life, what we really need to find is NOT microbial life but macrobial.   
      
   If we found something large enough to see with NASA's shitty optics,   
   that points to indigenous life.  If we found multicellular life, that   
   would be VERY powerful evidence! But, also...   
      
   If we found FOSSILIZED life, that would point towards indigenous   
   life on Mars... the older the better.   
      
   The older the life, the more complex, the stronger the case for   
   indigenous life... A SEPARATE ORIGINS!   
      
   Well. Not really. We couldn't rule out a Martian origins for life   
   on earth, now could we?  A volcanic eruption or asteroid strike   
   could have sent life bearing material hurling towards earth... Mars   
   could have seeded the earth!   
      
      
      
   --   
   https://jtem.tumblr.com/tagged/The%20Book%20of%20JTEM/page/5   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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