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   From: Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com   
      
   On 11/9/2025 10:30 PM, JTEM wrote:   
   > On 11/9/25 8:56 PM, Dawn Flood wrote:   
   >   
   >> What you're posting is just nuts.   
   >   
   > No. It's actually pretty conservative. But you're not just insane,   
   > you're an idiot.   
   >   
   > If something is within the realm of possibilities -- and as you   
   > yourself admitted, time travel is -- then it all comes down to   
   > PROBABILITIES.   
   >   
   > If it's a ONCE IN A BILLION SUNS EVENT, we're looking at it   
   > happening 100 to 400 times over the life of our galaxy.   
   >   
   > There are 2 trillion galaxies in the observable universe. So if   
   > it's a ONCE IN A TRILLION SUNS EVENT, we're looking at 200 to   
   > 800 trillion times over the life of the observable universe.   
   >   
      
   No, Honey, time travel is IMPOSSIBLE, which means that it has a ZERO   
   chance of occurring!   
      
   > The numbers are staggering. The numbers are so massive that   
   > virtually ANYTHING possible is, over the life of our universe   
   > anywhere from probably to ALREADY HAPPENED.   
   >   
      
   None, some things are impossible, as in, they never happen, ever.   
      
   >>   Some reactions (both nuclear and/or chemical) have a probability of   
   >> ZERO occurring.   
   >   
   > We are speaking of things that have been determined to be   
   > possible, not impossible.   
   >   
   > Nothing excludes backwards time travel. And to achieve that   
   > all we need do is a change in perspective. After all, time   
   > is relative, it's different for two observers, so for one   
   > there is no backwards time movement but for the other there   
   > is. One example of this is the Photon which can't play by   
   > our rules because it doesn't correspond to time. So, for us,   
   > information can move backwards even though for the photon it   
   > is not.   
   >   
      
   Yes, as Ken has already pointed out to you, there are peer-reviewed   
   papers that state that time travel is a physical impossibility.   
      
   > But, the real game changer would be faster-than-light   
   > particles like a tachyon. If we can prove they exist, figure   
   > out how to detect them, even if only indirectly, and we can   
   > figure out how to produce them, we just created a time machine   
   > for information. We can communicate with the past.   
   >   
      
   Tachyons don't exist, which is why they have not been discovered.   
      
   > The one drawback is that we could not send information back   
   > any further than the construction of the detector.   
   >   
   >> The above is a chemical reaction which cannot happen.   
   >   
   > Is this why you won't take your meds?   
   >   
      
   Has nothing to do with that.  Ask yourself this, "Why have no quarks,   
   which are part of the Standard Model, never been observed in   
   isolation??"  (Answer:  Quarks exist, but it is physically impossible   
   for a lone quark to exist in isolation.)   
      
   > We already know that the individual pieces exist and are real:   
   >   
   > Photons, the fact that our concept of time does not apply to   
   > them, the fact that our concept of space does not apply to   
   > them and thus we can produce results that move backwards in   
   > time FOR US.   
   >   
   >> Your example of natural fission (or, fusion) reactions is irrelevant.   
   >   
   > No, you're just retarded.   
   >   
      
   No, I am not.  Only two fusion reactions in stars are known, the   
   proton-proton reaction and the CNO reaction.  No other stellar fusion   
   reactions are known because none exist.   
      
   > It's an example of how technology is merely harnessing the power of   
   > nature. All technology. Science figures out how nature works, tech   
   > is the application of that knowledge. AND THIS IS TRUE IN ALL CASES.   
   >   
   > It couldn't be any more simple.   
   >   
   > There have been "Reenactors" who easily bested ancient Roman Iron   
   > production, using Roman tech, even though the Roman economy was   
   > dependent upon that tech. How? Because the modern reenactors   
   > understood the science guiding the process so they were just better,   
   > more efficient, without even consciously trying.   
   >   
   > Turns out that the Romans, lacking our understanding of the science,   
   > were so bad at iron production that their slag -- the waste/biproduct   
   > -- was a major source of Iron for Mussolini.   
   >   
   >  > Those types of reactions are POSSIBLE, as opposed to backwards >   
   > causality, which is IMPOSSIBLE.   
   >   
   > Observations appear to confirm it.   
   >   
      
   Nothing no one has ever done has violated the known laws of   
   thermodynamics; water, on its own, does not run up hill, just as it is   
   physically impossible to make any engine that is 100% efficient.   
      
   > But, as per Einstein, it all comes down to "Relativity."   
   >   
   >> Our "big universe" is irrelevant   
   >   
   > No. You're just retarded.   
   >   
      
   No, if the laws of physics apply everywhere, then what is impossible   
   here is also impossible everywhere else.  This is the Copernican   
   presumption (albeit, testable) of cosmology.   
      
   > The appeal to size/scale is the entire basis for SETI and even   
   > ridiculous claims such as the Fermi "Paradox," which isn't even   
   > a paradox, for Christ's sake...   
   >   
   > But, the very concept of life on other worlds is that the universe   
   > is far too large for their not to be any.   
   >   
   > Because you are retarded you can not take knowledge you have HERE,   
   > and apply it THERE. You are literally pretending that the rules,   
   > the very laws of nature begin anew with every topic...   
   >   
      
   I never claimed such an absurdity.  The so-called "laws of nature" are   
   just unbreakable, repeatable patterns that scientists observe & describe.   
      
   > ; the same physics applies everywhere.   
   >   
   > Lol!  You ARE retarded!  It's not just an act!   
   >   
      
   What's the alternative??  Different physics?!  If true, where's the   
   evidence for such??   
      
   > If the same physics apply everywhere then the photon never experiences   
   > time nor distance. However, we do. So for us things happen at different   
   > times and in different places even if not for the photon:   
   >   
   > Retrocausality!   
   >   
   > And, yes, according to Einstein, this is the way things are supposed   
   > to work! AND, from both perspectives the observation is TRUE!   
   >   
   > So for us IT IS TRUE that information moved backwards in time, for   
   > the photon it happened simultaneously.   
   >   
      
   Professor Einstein never made any claims about "time travel"; all of his   
   papers are online and nowhere does he advance such an idea.  Now, you   
   can point to non-physical solutions of General Relativity, but as I have   
   told you, nearly all theoretical physicists hold these solutions as not   
   occurring in Nature.  As with Professor J. J. Thomson's "plum pudding"   
   model of the atom (which is still taught -- see "Modern Physics" by   
   Professor Kenneth S. Krane), some physical models, while mathematically   
   correct, simply do not describe Reality, which is why all physicists,   
      
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