XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, sci.skeptic, alt.global-warming   
   From: user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid   
      
   On 12/19/25 4:45 PM, Dude wrote:   
   > On 12/19/2025 11:26 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >> On 12/19/25 9:46 AM, Dude wrote:   
   >>> On 12/18/2025 9:52 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>> On 12/18/25 7:15 PM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>> On 12/18/2025 5:29 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 12/18/25 5:06 PM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 12/18/2025 12:05 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On 12/18/25 6:16 AM, Wilson wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On 12/18/2025 12:42 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> On 12/17/25 4:53 PM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On 12/17/2025 12:38 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 17 Dec 2025 15:07:11 -0500, Wilson   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>    
   >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Twenty-six state attorneys general are asking the Justice   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Department to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> investigate whether two climate-focused nonprofit groups   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> failed to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> disclose lobbying for China.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> A letter sent Tuesday by the attorneys general cited   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> “substantial   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence” that Energy Foundation China (EFC) and the Center   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> for Climate   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Integrity (CCI) “have acted within the United States as   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> unregistered   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> agents of foreign principals.”   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> As if all that, true or not, has anything to do with us   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> climate change   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> problems.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> It has a lot to do with a conspiracy by China to cause panic   
   >>>>>>>>>>> in Western countries with a global warming hoax, at the same   
   >>>>>>>>>>> time promoting a road and belt initiative which will increase   
   >>>>>>>>>>> global warming.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> like what do u think the chinese gain by spreading a "hoax"?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> What an incredibly naive question.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> seriously: explain ya dingus   
   >>>>>>>> >   
   >>>>>>>>> oh no the   
   >>>>>>>>>> chinese are profiting by selling us solar panels? and bruh evs   
   >>>>>>>>>> are fucking sweet i'm never using an ice car as a daily again,   
   >>>>>>>>>> wish we had the chinese ones here to kick up the competition a   
   >>>>>>>>>> notch   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> also ... like dude. the chinese have like a 90% acceptance   
   >>>>>>>>>> rate of climate change. how is that even spreading a hoax?   
   >>>>>>>>> 90% of the Chinese will say they believe whatever they're told   
   >>>>>>>>> to say, much like here.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> u ever even met anyone from china? they are people too you   
   >>>>>>>> know... some of them highly educated even...   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> heck, 60% of chinese believe they are *personally* experiencing   
   >>>>>>>> changes due to climate,   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> One suggestion I read about to combat bad air pollution in China   
   >>>>>>> was to eliminate all charcoal fires within the city limits.   
   >>>>>>> Another suggestion I read about was to cut out all offensive   
   >>>>>>> weapons manufacturing and naval, air, and land invasion forces   
   >>>>>>> from the national budget.   
   >>>>>>> > > so if ur claiming the CCP is spreading the climate change to   
   >>>>>>> hoax   
   >>>>>>>> literally everyone, including it's own population too: what's   
   >>>>>>>> their motivation there???   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> The first motivation I can think of is to sell to Americans cheap   
   >>>>>>> electric cars powered by batteries and chips made only in China.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> a) why would they think that when america tariffs the shit out of   
   >>>>>> external competition to it's car industry   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>> Apparently it's working.   
   >>>>> >   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> b) could've done that with gas cars too   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> u haven't really tho this one thru much dude   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>> The idea of purchasing a cheap Chinese electric car running on   
   >>>>> batteries made only in China is not a good idea. Be practical and   
   >>>>> just buy a basic American truck. See the job. Do the job.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> The Ford Maverick Hybrid Is the 2026 Motor Trend Truck of the Year   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> https://tinyurl.com/36pwp2b7   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Our (Two-)Year Test of the Ford Maverick Hybrid Is Over: Here’s How   
   >>>>> It Went   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> https://tinyurl.com/yucttnpr   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> $28,145 MSRP   
   >>>>   
   >>>> ain't never purchasing an ice for daily driving again u americant   
   >>>>   
   >>> An all electric vehicle is not a good idea. Apparently, you have not   
   >>   
   >> like i said: i already drive one daily, and it's fantastic   
   >>   
   >> never buying an ice daily driver again.   
   >>   
   >>> thought this through. First, Chinese cars are not for sale in the US,   
   >>> Amigo.   
   >>>   
   >>> The Biden administration's tariffs focused on new Chinese EV imports   
   >>> to deter future brands like BYD or Nio.   
   >>>   
   >>> Second, you have to charge them, where? At your apartment?   
   >>   
   >> yes so my car is always charged fully when i wake up and distance it   
   >> can travel is enough for actually anything but literal road trips.   
   >>   
   >> and i use the supercharger network when traveling. some people are   
   >> impatient and can't stand 20m every 2-2.5 hrs on a road trip. i don't   
   >> understand those people. and that time will only decrease as the   
   >> technology matures.   
   >>   
   >> anything like a 2-3x power density discovery will wipe ICEs off the   
   >> face the planet   
   >>   
   > Get serious! You're going to a grocery store to buy baby food.   
   >   
   > Go for the vehicle with the highest resale value. Buy a car or truck   
   > that will INCREASE in value. Don't listen to the commies. Buy smart!   
   > >   
      
   i don't intend to sell it, i intend to maintain and drive it. not that   
   there is much maintenance besides buying wheels every now and then.   
      
   >   
   >>>   
   >>> Be practical - get a hybrid and get the best of both worlds. We get   
   >>> 45 mpg in our Toyota Corolla Hybrid at $24,500 MSRP.   
   >>   
      
   i don't even know if i'm ever not getting a tesla. tesla figured out   
   remote control of my vehicle in a way that other mfs are helpless to   
   follow up on (despite it really not being that hard to dev a simple,   
   functional interface)   
      
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