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   Dude to All   
   =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_Climate_Groups_Doing_Chi   
   21 Dec 25 11:47:55   
   
   XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, sci.skeptic, alt.global-warming   
   From: punditster@gmail.com   
      
   On 12/20/2025 6:05 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   > On 12/19/25 4:45 PM, Dude wrote:   
   >> On 12/19/2025 11:26 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>> On 12/19/25 9:46 AM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>> On 12/18/2025 9:52 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>> On 12/18/25 7:15 PM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 12/18/2025 5:29 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 12/18/25 5:06 PM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On 12/18/2025 12:05 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On 12/18/25 6:16 AM, Wilson wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> On 12/18/2025 12:42 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On 12/17/25 4:53 PM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/17/2025 12:38 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 17 Dec 2025 15:07:11 -0500, Wilson   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>    
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twenty-six state attorneys general are asking the Justice   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Department to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> investigate whether two climate-focused nonprofit groups   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> failed to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> disclose lobbying for China.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> A letter sent Tuesday by the attorneys general cited   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> “substantial   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence” that Energy Foundation China (EFC) and the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Center for Climate   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Integrity (CCI) “have acted within the United States as   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> unregistered   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> agents of foreign principals.”   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> As if all that, true or not, has anything to do with us   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> climate change   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> problems.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> It has a lot to do with a conspiracy by China to cause panic   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> in Western countries with a global warming hoax, at the same   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> time promoting a road and belt initiative which will   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> increase global warming.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> like what do u think the chinese gain by spreading a "hoax"?   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> What an incredibly naive question.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> seriously: explain ya dingus   
   >>>>>>>>>   >   
   >>>>>>>>>> oh no the   
   >>>>>>>>>>> chinese are profiting by selling us solar panels? and bruh   
   >>>>>>>>>>> evs are fucking sweet i'm never using an ice car as a daily   
   >>>>>>>>>>> again, wish we had the chinese ones here to kick up the   
   >>>>>>>>>>> competition a notch   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> also ... like dude. the chinese have like a 90% acceptance   
   >>>>>>>>>>> rate of climate change. how is that even spreading a hoax?   
   >>>>>>>>>> 90% of the Chinese will say they believe whatever they're told   
   >>>>>>>>>> to say, much like here.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> u ever even met anyone from china? they are people too you   
   >>>>>>>>> know... some of them highly educated even...   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> heck, 60% of chinese believe they are *personally* experiencing   
   >>>>>>>>> changes due to climate,   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> One suggestion I read about to combat bad air pollution in China   
   >>>>>>>> was to eliminate all charcoal fires within the city limits.   
   >>>>>>>> Another suggestion I read about was to cut out all offensive   
   >>>>>>>> weapons manufacturing and naval, air, and land invasion forces   
   >>>>>>>> from the national budget.   
   >>>>>>>>  > > so if ur claiming the CCP is spreading the climate change   
   >>>>>>>> to hoax   
   >>>>>>>>> literally everyone, including it's own population too: what's   
   >>>>>>>>> their motivation there???   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> The first motivation I can think of is to sell to Americans   
   >>>>>>>> cheap electric cars powered by batteries and chips made only in   
   >>>>>>>> China.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> a) why would they think that when america tariffs the shit out of   
   >>>>>>> external competition to it's car industry   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Apparently it's working.   
   >>>>>>  >   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> b) could've done that with gas cars too   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> u haven't really tho this one thru much dude   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>> The idea of purchasing a cheap Chinese electric car running on   
   >>>>>> batteries made only in China is not a good idea. Be practical and   
   >>>>>> just buy a basic American truck. See the job. Do the job.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> The Ford Maverick Hybrid Is the 2026 Motor Trend Truck of the Year   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/36pwp2b7   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Our (Two-)Year Test of the Ford Maverick Hybrid Is Over: Here’s   
   >>>>>> How It Went   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/yucttnpr   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> $28,145 MSRP   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> ain't never purchasing an ice for daily driving again u americant   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> An all electric vehicle is not a good idea. Apparently, you have not   
   >>>   
   >>> like i said: i already drive one daily, and it's fantastic   
   >>>   
   >>> never buying an ice daily driver again.   
   >>>   
   >>>> thought this through. First, Chinese cars are not for sale in the   
   >>>> US, Amigo.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The Biden administration's tariffs focused on new Chinese EV imports   
   >>>> to deter future brands like BYD or Nio.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Second, you have to charge them, where? At your apartment?   
   >>>   
   >>> yes so my car is always charged fully when i wake up and distance it   
   >>> can travel is enough for actually anything but literal road trips.   
   >>>   
   >>> and i use the supercharger network when traveling. some people are   
   >>> impatient and can't stand 20m every 2-2.5 hrs on a road trip. i don't   
   >>> understand those people. and that time will only decrease as the   
   >>> technology matures.   
   >>>   
   >>> anything like a 2-3x power density discovery will wipe ICEs off the   
   >>> face the planet   
   >>>   
   >> Get serious! You're going to a grocery store to buy baby food.   
   >>   
   >> Go for the vehicle with the highest resale value. Buy a car or truck   
   >> that will INCREASE in value. Don't listen to the commies. Buy smart!   
   >>  >   
   >   
   > i don't intend to sell it, i intend to maintain and drive it. not that   
   > there is much maintenance besides buying wheels every now and then.   
   >   
   >>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Be practical - get a hybrid and get the best of both worlds. We get   
   >>>> 45 mpg in our Toyota Corolla Hybrid at $24,500 MSRP.   
   >>>   
   >   
   > i don't even know if i'm ever not getting a tesla. tesla figured out   
   > remote control of my vehicle in a way that other mfs are helpless to   
   > follow up on (despite it really not being that hard to dev a simple,   
   > functional interface)   
   >   
   They say the ideal car to own is the one that's paid for. At these   
   prices, it might be a good idea to buy used, low mileage gas vehicle   
   like Ford. Save money for baby food.   
      
   But, let's be realistic!   
      
   You really need a small, efficient car to get to work in the city and   
   one for your wife to get to work too.   
      
   You need a truck for the long hauling or to tow the boat or RV, and you   
   need a sports car to get away from work and the wife and kids for an   
      
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