XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, sci.skeptic, alt.global-warming   
   From: user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid   
      
   On 12/22/25 3:06 PM, Samuel Spade wrote:   
   > Wilson  wrote:   
   >> On 12/20/2025 10:59 PM, Samuel Spade wrote:   
   >>> Wilson  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> After the USSR folded, they declassified a ton of documents. Some of   
   >>>> which included their operation to gin up sentiment by paying groups to   
   >>>> oppose nuclear power. The obvious goal was to slow down or stop new   
   >>>> plants being built.   
   >>>   
   >>> Chernobyl showed a lot of americans & others, that nuclear power is   
   >>> troublesome.  A lot more convincing than propaganda, wasn't it.   
   >>>   
   >>> Are you claiming the russians staged that all for our benefit?   
   >>   
   >> You should look into what actually happened there and why. The   
   >> "accident" had more to do with the systemic failures within the Soviet   
   >> Union than nuclear power.   
   >   
   >   
   > The Chernobyl meltdown was a series of human blunders.  The area around   
   > it may be unusable for thousands of years.  Amazingly enough, something   
   > similar will probably happen again.   
   >   
   > OTOH, the shelling of Chernobyl (and ukraine's other nuke plant) and the   
   > takeover of the plant by the russian army from the ukrainian engineers   
   > was not by mistake.  Nuclear plants and waste dumps are an engraved   
   > invitation for beligerants and terrorists to make mischief.   
   >   
   > And then there are the waste storage sites which will be radioactive for   
   > hundreds of thousands of years.  They will be looted as surely as most   
   > of the pharoahs' burial sites were.   
   >   
   > I used to be all in favor of nuclear power before Russia attacked   
   > Chernobyl.  Humans can't be trusted to not vandalize the planet.   
      
   yeah well if we didn't just trash can nuclear research, we wouldn't be   
   stuck with 1970s nuclear tech and could have developed forms with far   
   greater safety   
      
   >   
   >   
   >> Also look into the US Navy's Nuclear program. It's been in operation   
   >> since 1953. Over 177 million miles safely steamed on nuclear power and   
   >> thousands of reactor-years of operation. And no reactor accidents   
   >> resulting in radiation release, personnel harm from radiation, or   
   >> environmental contamination.   
   >   
   > Also look into the Russian/soviet navy's nuclear program.  At least 1   
   > submarine sunk, and who knows what else.   
   >   
   > So nuclear is safe, but solar, windmills, hydro, geothermal, and tidal   
   > generation are killing people right and left, right?   
      
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