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   Message 956 of 1,021   
   Leroy N. Soetoro to All   
   Armed Robber Ignores NYC's 'Gun-Free' Po   
   21 Oct 25 18:48:16   
   
   XPost: nyc.transit, alt.politics.democrats, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh   
   XPost: talk.politics.guns, sac.politics   
   From: leroysoetoro@americans-first.com   
      
   https://bearingarms.com/camedwards/2025/10/18/armed-robber-ignores-nycs-   
   gun-free-policy-for-public-transportation-n1230302   
      
   If you're one of the few New York City residents with a valid carry   
   permit, you still can't take your pistol with you when using the city's   
   mass transit system, which is one of many "gun-free zones" established by   
   New York politicians after the Bruen decision. Prior to 2022 it was   
   perfectly legal to carry in a subway car, but it was nearly impossible to   
   get a permit to carry.   
      
   Honestly, things haven't improved that much since New York was forced to   
   adopt a "shall issue" licensing regime. Applicants are still waiting a   
   year or more to be approved, and the onerous application fees are serving   
   as a roadblock for many residents who might otherwise apply for a carry   
   permit.   
      
   Criminals, meanwhile, are continuing to carry without regard for the law,   
   including in places that are off-limits to lawful carry.   
      
   A 57-year-old woman was robbed of her bag inside an Upper West Side subway   
   station in a broad-daylight mugging after a stranger put a gun to her   
   head, demanding her property, police said Thursday.   
      
   “This is real,” the armed mugger seethed as he pressed the gun to the   
   woman’s head at the 86th St. subway stop for B and C trains at Central   
   Park West on Wednesday.   
      
   Police released surveillance photos of the suspect in the hopes someone   
   would recognize him.   
      
   The victim was in the station’s mezzanine, about to enter a turnstile   
   around 11:15 a.m. when the gunman crept up behind her.   
      
   After threatening to shoot her, he snatched the woman’s bag, which   
   contained an Apple watch, her iPhone, wallet, credit cards and personal   
   checks.   
      
   The CCTV cameras in the subway stations may help police identify the   
   suspect, but they certaintly didn't stop him from carrying out his crime.   
   Neither did any of the uniformed officers that regularly patrol the subway   
   system.   
      
   Now, given the fact that the armed robber snuck up behind his victim and   
   took her by surprise, she might not have been able to fend him off even if   
   she was allowed to carry on public transportation and had managed to   
   navigate the maze of red tape NYC has erected between residents and their   
   right to bear arms. The "gun-free" policy, though, also prevented anyone   
   else from lawfully carrying and rendering aid, even if it was just to try   
   to hold the armed robber until police arrived.   
      
   The NY Daily News says armed robberies on the subway system are   
   "exceedingly rare", and notes that reported incidents are down by 10% so   
   far this year, from 347 in mid-October 2024 to 310 this year. That's still   
   more than one per day, and that doesn't count the incidents where the   
   victim decided not to report what happened to them because they're afraid   
   of retaliation or don't believe it would do any good.   
      
   New York isn't going to willingly get rid of its "gun-free" designation   
   for public transportation, but the Supreme Court could compel them to do   
   so. There are ongoing challenges to New York's ban and other similar   
   prohibitions around the country, including a case called Schoenthal v.   
   Raoul that has been fully briefed and tried on the merits in the lower   
   courts. Though a district court judge ruled that Illinois' ban on   
   concealed carry in public transportation settings was unconstitutional, a   
   Seventh Circuit panel reversed that decision last month.   
      
   Whether SCOTUS is ready to weigh in on the constitutionality of these   
   specific "gun-free zones" is an open question, but given the stakes   
   involved for millions of Americans who rely on buses and light rail to get   
   around, the justices should grant cert to one of these challenges at the   
   first opportunity. Of course, they should have granted cert to an "assault   
   weapon" case long ago and we're still waiting for that to happen, so I'm   
   tempering my expectations when it comes to SCOTUS and "gun-free" subway   
   systems.   
      
      
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