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   From: AlleyCat@ymail.com   
      
   Trump’s own lawyers keep undermining his voter fraud claims   
      
      
   President Trump’s legal challenges are still floundering, as lawyers are   
   forced to wage a battle based on specious and baseless claims in an effort to   
   hold up the certification of the 2020 election.   
      
   But what’s often just as notable as the failure of the efforts is in how   
   little they resemble Trump’s actual allegations.   
      
   In fact, despite Trump’s claims of massive fraud and other nefarious   
   occurrences, his lawyers have repeatedly acknowledged that there is no   
   evidence of such things or said they weren’t making the same allegations   
   Trump is.   
      
   They have also undermined Trump’s claims when it comes to whether observers   
   were allowed to witness vote-counting, so-called glitches in voting machines   
   and the idea that dead people voted.   
      
   Below is a comparison between what Trump has said and what his lawyers have   
   said about the same subjects.   
   Massive fraud   
      
   What Trump says: “I WON THE ELECTION. VOTER FRAUD ALL OVER THE COUNTRY!”   
   (Nov. 18)   
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   “ … There were massive improprieties and fraud … ” (Nov. 17)   
      
   What his lawyers say: Appearing in a Pennsylvania courtroom Tuesday in the   
   state’s biggest case, Trump lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani conceded, “This is not   
   a fraud case.”   
      
   In the same case, a judge asked Trump lawyer Linda Kerns whether she would   
   “agree with me that you are not proceeding based on allegations of fraud or   
   misconduct; is that correct?” Kerns responded, “I am not proceeding on those   
   allegations."   
      
   In Montgomery County, Pa., Trump lawyer Jonathan S. Goldstein was asked by a   
   judge, “Are you claiming that there is any fraud in connection with these 592   
   disputed ballots?” Goldstein responded: “To my knowledge at present, no.”   
      
   In Maricopa County, Ariz., home to Phoenix, Trump lawyer Kory Langhofer said,   
   “We are not alleging fraud in this lawsuit. … This is not about fraud.”   
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   And in a joint stipulation signed by the Trump campaign’s lawyers this week   
   in Bucks County, Pa., they acknowledged that they had no evidence of fraud:   
      
       27. Petitioners do not allege, and there is no evidence of, any fraud in   
   connection with the challenged ballots.   
       28. Petitioners do not allege, and there is no evidence of, any   
   misconduct in connection with the challenged ballots.   
       29. Petitioners do not allege, and there is no evidence of, any   
   impropriety in connection with the challenged ballots.   
      
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