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   "Hail tRUMP! Hail Our People!" Alt-Right   
   25 May 21 21:17:20   
   
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   Alt-Right Gathering Exults in Trump Election With Nazi-Era Salute   
      
   WASHINGTON — By the time Richard B. Spencer, the leading ideologue of the   
   alt-right movement and the final speaker of the night, rose to address a   
   gathering of his followers on Saturday, the crowd was restless.   
      
   In 11 hours of speeches and panel discussions in a federal building named   
   after Ronald Reagan a few blocks from the White House, a succession of   
   speakers had laid out a harsh vision for the future, but had denounced   
   violence and said that Hispanic citizens and black Americans had nothing   
   to fear. Earlier in the day, Mr. Spencer himself had urged the group to   
   start acting less like an underground organization and more like the   
   establishment.   
      
   But now his tone changed as he began to tell the audience of more than 200   
   people, mostly young men, what they had been waiting to hear. He railed   
   against Jews and, with a smile, quoted Nazi propaganda in the original   
   German. America, he said, belonged to white people, whom he called the   
   “children of the sun,” a race of conquerors and creators who had been   
   marginalized but now, in the era of President-elect Donald J. Trump, were   
   “awakening to their own identity.”   
      
   As he finished, several audience members had their arms outstretched in a   
   Nazi salute. Mr. Spencer called out: “Hail Trump! Hail our people!” and   
   then, “Hail victory!” — the English translation of the Nazi exhortation   
   “Sieg Heil!” The room shouted back.   
      
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   These are exultant times for the alt-right movement, which was little   
   known until this year, when it embraced Mr. Trump’s campaign and he   
   appeared to embrace it back. He chose as his campaign chairman Stephen K.   
   Bannon, the media executive who ran the alt-right’s most prominent   
   platform, Breitbart News, and then named him as a senior adviser and chief   
   strategist.   
      
   Now the movement’s leaders hope to have, if not a seat at the table, at   
   least the ear of the Trump White House.   
      
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   While many of its racist views are well known — that President Obama is,   
   or may as well be, of foreign birth; that the Black Lives Matter movement   
   is another name for black race rioters; that even the American-born   
   children of undocumented Hispanic immigrants should be deported — the alt-   
   right has been difficult to define. Is it a name for right-wing political   
   provocateurs in the internet era? Or is it a political movement defined by   
   xenophobia and a dislike for political correctness?   
      
   At the conference on Saturday, Mr. Spencer, who said he had coined the   
   term, defined the alt-right as a movement with white identity as its core   
   idea.   
      
   “We’ve crossed the Rubicon in terms of recognition,” Mr. Spencer said at   
   the conference, which was sponsored by his organization, the National   
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   And while much of the discourse at the conference was overtly racist and   
   demeaning toward minorities, for much of the day the sentiments were   
   expressed in ways that seemed intended to not sound too menacing. The   
   focus was on how whites were marginalized and beleaguered.   
      
   One speaker, Peter Brimelow, the founder of Vdare.com, an anti-immigration   
   website, asked why, if Hispanics had the National Council of La Raza and   
   Jews had the Anti-Defamation League, whites were reluctant to organize for   
   their rights. Some speakers made an effort to distance themselves from   
   more notorious white power organizations like the Ku Klux Klan.   
      
   But as the night wore on and most reporters had gone home, the language   
   changed.   
      
   Mr. Spencer’s after-dinner speech began with a polemic against the   
   “mainstream media,” before he briefly paused. “Perhaps we should refer to   
   them in the original German?” he said.   
      
   The audience immediately screamed back, “Lügenpresse,” reviving a Nazi-era   
   word that means “lying press.”   
      
   Mr. Spencer suggested that the news media had been critical of Mr. Trump   
   throughout the campaign in order to protect Jewish interests. He mused   
   about the political commentators who gave Mr. Trump little chance of   
   winning.   
      
   “One wonders if these people are people at all, or instead soulless   
   golem,” he said, referring to a Jewish fable about the golem, a clay giant   
   that a rabbi brings to life to protect the Jews.   
      
   Mr. Trump’s election, Mr. Spencer said, was “the victory of will,” a   
   phrase that echoed the title of the most famous Nazi-era propaganda film.   
   But Mr. Spencer then mentioned, with a smile, Theodor Herzl, the Zionist   
   leader who advocated a Jewish homeland in Israel, quoting his famous   
   pronouncement, “If we will it, it is no dream.”   
      
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   The United States today, Mr. Spencer said, had been turned into “a sick,   
   corrupted society.” But it was not supposed to be that way.   
      
   Richard B. Spencer, a leader of the alt-right movement, spoke at a   
   conference in Washington on Saturday.   
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   Al Drago/The New York Times   
      
      
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   Richard B. Spencer, a leader of the alt-right movement, spoke at a   
   conference in Washington on Saturday.CreditAl Drago/The New York Times   
   “America was, until this last generation, a white country designed for   
   ourselves and our posterity,” Mr. Spencer thundered. “It is our creation,   
   it is our inheritance, and it belongs to us.”   
      
   But the white race, he added, is “a race that travels forever on an upward   
   path.”   
      
   “To be white is to be a creator, an explorer, a conqueror,” he said.   
      
   More members of the audience were on their feet as Mr. Spencer described   
   the choice facing white people as to “conquer or die.”   
      
   Of other races, Mr. Spencer said: “We don’t exploit other groups, we don’t   
   gain anything from their presence. They need us, and not the other way   
   around.”   
      
   The ties between the alt-right movement and the Trump team are difficult   
   to define, even by members of the alt-right.   
      
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   Mr. Bannon was the chief executive of Breitbart, an online news   
   organization that has fed the lie that Mr. Obama is a Kenyan-born Muslim.   
   As recently as last year, Breitbart published an op-ed article urging that   
   “every tree, every rooftop, every picket fence, every telegraph pole in   
   the South should be festooned with the Confederate battle flag.”   
      
   Mr. Bannon told Mother Jones this year that Breitbart was now “the   
   platform for the alt-right.”   
      
   But in an interview last week with The Wall Street Journal, Mr. Bannon   
   said that the alt-right was only “a tiny part” of the viewpoint   
      
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