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|    SS Hillary Sinking Fast, ABANDON SH to All    |
|    Joe Biden just trolled Hillary Clinton.     |
|    20 Jan 16 05:19:15    |
      XPost: dc.politics, atl.general, uw.clubs.vietnamese       XPost: alt.politics.bush       From: dumb.old.broad@hillaryclinton.com              Joe Biden may well be the most honest man in Washington. That's       a very good thing if you are a member of the political press       and, at the moment, not a very good thing if you are Hillary       Clinton.              Witness Biden's interview Monday night with CNN's Gloria Borger.       Borger asked the vice president to explain why Bernie Sanders       has found so much success in his challenge to Clinton for the       2016 Democratic presidential nomination. Here's how Biden       answered:              BIDEN: I think that -- that Bernie is speaking to a yearning       that is deep and real, and he has credibility on it. And that is       the absolute enormous concentration of wealth in a small group       of people with the new class now being able to be shown being       left out. There used to be a basic bargain. If you contributed       to the profitability of an enterprise, you got to share in the       profit. That's been broken. Productivity is up, wages are       stagnant.              BORGER: But Hillary's talking about that, and....              BIDEN: Well, it's -- but it's -- it's relatively new for Hillary       to talk about that. Hillary's focus has been other things up to       now, and that's been Bernie's -- no one questions Bernie's       authenticity on those issues.              Cue groans in Clinton campaign headquarters.              In an interview with the "Today" show Tuesday morning at the       White House, Biden sought to clean up the controversy caused by       his comments to Borger -- noting that "what I meant was for the       last five years she’s been engaged in foreign policy -- for four       years here." As for Sanders, "even when income inequality wasn’t       as serious as it is today, it was his drumbeat,” Biden said.       “[Clinton's] coming up with some very good ideas but Bernie is       pushing the envelope on this.”              Read between the lines of Biden's answers and you get this:       Bernie Sanders is doing better than most people expected because       he's authentic and actually believes what he says. Hillary is       fine but, let's be honest, she is talking about these issues now       because Bernie is forcing her hand. He's credible on issues of       economic inequality; she's not really.              It's not all that surprising that Biden threw Clinton under the       bus to Borger if you remember the duo's history. During his long       consideration of a 2016 run against Clinton, Biden -- and his       inner circle -- made it very clear that he resented Clinton's       attempts to cast herself as the natural heir to Obama's two       terms in office. And it's no secret that Biden has long viewed       Clinton as an overly cautious, poll-tested sort of politician --       the antithesis of his say-what-you-mean-and-mean-what-you-say       approach to public life.              Biden did offer a bit of a warning to Clinton (and everyone else       running for the Democratic nod) when he announced, back in       October 2015, that he wouldn't run for the nomination. "I intend       to speak out clearly and forcefully, to influence as much as I       can where we stand as a party and where we need to go as a       nation," Biden said at the time.              Regardless, Biden's comments could hardly come at a worse time       for Clinton -- or a better one for Sanders. Clinton's widely       assumed lead in Iowa appears to be eroding with less than three       weeks to go before the caucuses -- raising the possibility that       the Vermont socialist could sweep the first two states to vote       and throw what looked like something close to a coronation for       Clinton into chaos.              Here's another way to look at what Biden's comments will do to       the "Bernie rising/Hillary struggling" narrative -- via Homer J.       Simpson:              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHjhP07HyAs              Biden, of course, knows what he is doing. Which is what makes it       all the more delicious, politically speaking.              https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/01/12/joe-       biden-just-trolled-hillary-clinton-big-       time/?tid=hybrid_experimentrandom_1_na                      --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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