From: thisisnot@emailaddress.com   
      
   3ngine wrote:   
   > On 8 Dec 2003 00:59:07 GMT, Omixochitl    
   > wrote:   
   >   
      
   > I've always felt that cyberpunk needs to incorporate the mood and feel   
   > of the 80's in order to be truly considered cyberpunk.  What would   
   > _Neuromancer_ be without the nostalgic feel of a Hitachi 1mb computer,   
   > _Snow_Crash_'s b&w personae in the Metaverse, or huge bug-eyed VR   
   > goggles in _Islands_In_The_Net_?   
   >   
   > I'm perfectly willing to change my definition if I'm faced with enough   
   > proof, but I strongly believe that CP is literature describing   
   > "futuristic computer-based societies" written by punks listening to   
   > Ministry.  Thoughts?   
      
   The essential element that most people (read: media) miss in cyberpunk   
   literature is the punk part. It had little or nothing to do with the   
   1980s in that sense, and it had much more to do with the punk movement   
   as a whole. This, tied with the offshoots of music from that movement   
   (which brought you the likes of Industrial, Hardcore, Goth, Deathrock,   
   and other lovely musical generes) created the era that most of the great   
   cyberpunk fiction was written in. It wasn't originally styled as   
   predictive SF, that was just hype later on. It was intended to be Punk   
   Sci-Fi (IMHO). T   
      
   Because of this, the fusion of Sci-fi and Punk can still exist (and   
   does), and Cyberpunk, like Industrial music, is not ~actually~ dead,   
   it's just sleeping.   
      
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