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   From: Abx45Dfh@jjh76g7856gh.com   
      
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   > > So when Richard Dawkins says "Show me a cultural relativist at 30,000   
   > > feet and I'll show you a hypocrite." I get the gist of his rhetoric but   
   > > I feel he is missing the point somehow.  Show me a sceptic at any   
   > > altitude that can deny any notion of truth without making a truth claim   
   > > and I'll jump out of the plane.   
   >   
   Show me a Richard Dawkins amongst a group of armed Taliban and i'll show you   
   a new convert to  islamic fundementalism. AKA - he who evolves in any given   
   sitation in order to survive....  As for the sceptic - its the other way   
   around - he who makes a truith claim needs to be able to support his claim?   
   Thats all the sceptic is asking - otherwise he'd buy the hair restorer...   
   >   
   > Sokal also invited some POMOs to walk out of his office   
   > window if they believed they could just deconstruct gravity.   
      
   The same could be said of any Newtonian of Einstein, the debate is not about   
   gravity - but *theories* of gravity. Sokal is no better than the witch   
   finders - Witches float - the innocent sink - show me anyone willing to take   
   this test? But of course there will be some even here.  Sokal resembles   
   something from the middle ages in his attempt to hold back thought to the   
   limits with which he is comfortable. As a po-mo should point out theories of   
   gravity are deconstructing themselves, this is the point, that theory   
   endlessly deconstructs itself - or arrives at the final *TRUTH*(t.m.) Either   
   way modernity is so to speak stuffed.   
      
   >   
   > > Or even better, just show me a cultural relativist! Or a sophist, or a   
   > > solipsist.  I have never met anyone who 100% believed in these things   
   > > 24/7 and I think that the taxonomy is suspect.  There are no "cultural   
   > > relativists" I guess is what I am trying to say.  If you follow   
   > > relativism through without arbitrarily drawing the line at some point   
   > > you end up going round in circles.  A **real**   
   > > absolute-relativist-sceptic would never be able to get up off the floor   
   > > let alone get on plane.   
      
   All kinds of people get on to planes not knowing of believing in the science   
   and technology that makes them work. But the term absolute-relativist *is*   
   cute!   
      
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