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   Omixochitl to Kevin Calder   
   Re: Cyberpunk, good and proper   
   18 Feb 04 02:53:24   
   
   From: Omixochitl2002@yahoo.com   
      
   Kevin Calder  wrote in   
   news:iQ145fPWVVMAFwuS@cableinet.co.uk:   
      
   > In message <400B0BA4.8080803@hotmail.com>, Alienthe   
   >  writes   
   >>3ngine wrote:   
   >   
   >    
   >   
   >>Cyberpunk literature has a few of these:   
   >> - Johnny Mnemonic starts square jawed, ends in tragedy   
   >> - Case is an anti-hero but hardly saves much   
   >   
   > Well, he saves himself.   
   >   
   >> - Hiro Protagonist is a Hollywood grade hero   
   >> - Neo, well...   
   >   
   > Fuck neo.   
      
   Copycat wannabe.  What about the original CP Nell?  ;)   
      
   >>> Hey, I forgot who I was talking with about this (distinction between   
   >>> *punk, such as biopunk, genepunk, etc.), but Molly from Gibson's   
   >>> universe is jacked up genetically, right?  If she were alone in a   
      
   Mendoza in Kage Baker's _Company_ series is a better example of a CP   
   heroine who's jacked up genetically.   
      
   >>Not sure if it is genetically but definitely engineered   
   >>and paid for.   
      
   Speaking of engineered and paid for jackups, how about William Cozzano's in   
   _Interface_?  :)   
      
   >>> novel, it'd still be CP, right?  Maybe there really isn't any   
   >>> difference between *punks...   
   >   
   >>Molly is a femme fatale in the Noir tradition.   
   >   
   > Not entirely in the tradition.  Many (most?) traditional femme fatale's   
   > are not sympathetic characters.  I sympathise at least as much with   
   > Molly as I do with Case.   
      
   Yeah, and Y.T.'s as sympathetic as Hiro.  OTOH, Molly's old enough to be a   
   femme fatale and Y.T.'s what, 15 (fille fatale?)?   
      
   >> Still, any   
   >>movie with her would probably rate a cyberpunk movie, at   
   >>least with me.   
   >   
   > Me 2!   
   >   
   > Now did we ever settle the issue of her casting?   
      
   It went a little like this:   
      
   Alienthe wrote:   
      
   > Omixochitl wrote:   
   >   
   >> Alienthe wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>Casting discussion are almost as frequent as The Question   
   >>>but so far I haven't seen suggestions from this newsgroup.   
   >>   
   >>You haven't?   
   >   
   >I was a bit ambiguous, what I meant was casting people from   
   >this group. OK, so we have you as Molly. Omar H would be the   
   >rasta pilot, right? Sourcerer as Deane, Nesta Stubbs as The   
   >Finn and Lev Lafayette as Neuromancer etc. This could be fun.   
      
   )   
      
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