From: Alienthe@hotmail.com   
      
   Kevin Calder wrote:   
      
   > In message <400B0BA4.8080803@hotmail.com>, Alienthe   
   >  writes   
   >> 3ngine wrote:   
   >   
   >    
   >   
   >> Cyberpunk literature has a few of these:   
   >> - Johnny Mnemonic starts square jawed, ends in tragedy   
   >> - Case is an anti-hero but hardly saves much   
   >   
   > Well, he saves himself.   
      
      
   There is a reference to him settling down, becoming a family   
   man. WmG wanted to make sure he would not make Case reappear   
   but I wonder why he chose that solution rather than bumping   
   him off.   
      
   >> - Hiro Protagonist is a Hollywood grade hero   
   >> - Neo, well...   
   >   
   > Fuck neo.   
      
      
   ... and we are still not sure the unpronouncable brothers   
   will not make another Matrix, are we? If they do I guess   
   Neo will return.   
      
   >>> Hey, I forgot who I was talking with about this (distinction between   
   >>> *punk, such as biopunk, genepunk, etc.), but Molly from Gibson's   
   >>> universe is jacked up genetically, right?  If she were alone in a   
   >>   
   >> Not sure if it is genetically but definitely engineered   
   >> and paid for.   
   >   
   >>> novel, it'd still be CP, right?  Maybe there really isn't any   
   >>> difference between *punks...   
   >>   
   >> Molly is a femme fatale in the Noir tradition.   
   >   
   > Not entirely in the tradition.  Many (most?) traditional femme fatale's   
   > are not sympathetic characters.  I sympathise at least as much with   
   > Molly as I do with Case.   
      
      
   I cannot pretend I have sampled all femme fatales but the ones I   
   have seen on the silver screen all had a tragic past that should   
   give a little sympathy at least. Also the main female character in   
   L.A. Confidential seemed like a femme fatale to me and was rather   
   sympathetic.   
      
   >> Still, any   
   >> movie with her would probably rate a cyberpunk movie, at   
   >> least with me.   
   >   
   > Me 2!   
   >   
   > Now did we ever settle the issue of her casting?   
      
   I remember there were 3 scenarios here with different sets:   
     - Usenet News: featuring Omixochitl (ref. her reply)   
     - The Movement: the two women who influenced WmG to create Molly   
     - Hollywood: I think I proposed both Maggie "Irma Vep" Cheung   
      as well as someone North African. I saw an ad with someone that   
      might be North African (possibly Targui) and thought why not   
      chose someone from a more uncommon place.   
      
   Who it will be in the end, if the movie ever will be made, seems   
   still the most discussed part of the casting. It will probably be   
   a surprise, were it, say, Britney Spears I sure would be astonished.   
      
   ==<)   
      
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