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   Omixochitl to Kevin Calder   
   Re: No Consciousness for Artificial Inte   
   08 Jul 04 03:05:41   
   
   From: Omixochitl2002@yahoo.com   
      
   Kevin Calder  wrote in news:zTI0xwF5EG7AFwF   
   $@cableinet.co.uk:   
      
   > For the same reason that the symbol shuffler in the Chinese room doesn't   
   > understand the Chinese letters he is manipulating, despite that fact   
   > that from the point of view of those outside the room he appears to be   
   > able to converse fluently in Chinese.   
      
   Hmm...so are we asking if the *shuffler* knows Chinese or if the *room*   
   knows Chinese?  ;)   
      
   This analogy seems to be more   
   room:shuffler:Chinese literacy::brain:neuron:consciousness   
   than anything...   
      
   > Well, he is open to the idea that man made brains could possess   
   > consciousness, provided they were brains, and not just simulations of   
   > brains.   
      
   If you think about it, all brains are man made brains anyway (babies -   
   including their brains - come from bigger people instead of storks or   
   cabbage patches, after all).  ;)   
      
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