From: kcalder@blueyonder.co.uk   
      
   In message , Jano   
    writes   
   >joss dice...   
      
   >> If something behaves as a simulation which is perfect in every way, then I   
   >> believe it should be treated as if it were the object of its simulation. I   
   >> would treat a Nexus 6 exactly as I would treat a human :o)   
      
   >Isn't that more or less what Turing said with his test?   
      
   Searle is basically arguing that the Turing test isn't sufficient.   
   According to him, a computer program could simulate human behaviour   
   perfectly well without actually experiencing any conscious states.   
      
   > I for one agree   
   >with you: if you can't tell the difference, the unknown differences   
   >aren't relevant.   
      
   The difference is only unknown because the Turing test arbitrarily   
   prohibits checking to see if its a computer running a simulation, or a   
   person with a brain in their skull.  Otherwise its trivially easy to   
   tell the difference between a computation simulation of a brain and a   
   brain.   
      
   thanks,   
   --   
   Kevin Calder   
      
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