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   Kevin Calder to ghost   
   Re: No Consciousness for Artificial Inte   
   05 Sep 04 00:17:38   
   
   a790c894   
   From: kcalder@blueyonder.co.uk   
      
   In message   
   ,   
   ghost  writes   
   >In article ,   
   > johnnyx  wrote:   
      
   >> In article > central.dca.giganews.com>, ghostGARBAGE@bitstreamnetMOREGARBAGE.com   
   >> says...   
      
   >> > the short version:   
      
   >> > If a simulation is in everyway indistinguishable from the real thing,   
   >> > what's the difference in the end results?   
      
   >> the difference is an internal phenomena which is entierly unprovable..   
   >> but u know from personal expierence just how important it is.   
      
   >and if it's unprovable how do we know the quality does or does not exist   
   >within any given entity?   
      
   The way that you *know* about subjective things (your opinions,   
   thoughts, feelings e.t.c.) should be distinguished from the way that you   
   *know* about objective things.  Subjective knowledge isn't really   
   provable.   
      
   thanks,   
   --   
   Kevin Calder   
      
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