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From: edgarhentai@gmail.com
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 14:30:34 +0100, "goobs"
wrote:
>>
>> Cyberpunk is a genre. The genre was very big in the 1980 and 1990 ...
>> it actually was a big frenzy then !
>
>yes, and no. Science fiction is a genre. Cyberpunk is a subgenre. that
>aside, science fiction is not dead just because Aasimov isn't writing it.
>it has evolved since then, many times over.
Ok subgenre. You are right about Sci-Fi and I think it does also apply
to CP! Sci-Fi has evolve because it as transform in so many subgenre
(One of those being CP) so why can't CP evolve into something else ?
Lead, follow but get out of the way, right ?
>
>>
>> Now this usenet group was also very crowded a long time ago and now it
>> is virtually empty.
>
>it does that often. as with every newsgroup, it swings in and out of
>popularity.
>you want to find the eager beavers that were here 10 years ago? go check out
>alt.computer.science they all have jobs nowadays. it doesn't make them less
>interested, just busier.
And no new crowd !?
>
>>
>> CP was put down by reality. Yes you do use some of the technology that
>> was described in some CP novel but that doesn't mean that we live in a
>> CP world.
>
>well that's bloody obvious. cyberpunk is fiction set in the near future...
>it can never be now. the problem with cyberpunk is not a timeline, it's a
>lack of imagination. it will take one big breakthrough in imagination to
>bring it forward. Give an author a new idea, and the genre will be revived.
Well ok but to be revived you first have to be ...
)
>
>>
>> I mean look at the number of people trying to imitate Elvis !? Is
>> Elvis coming back ? are we living in an Elvis world ? No (Thank god !)
>> :)
>
>Elvis as you might have guessed, is not a genre. he is a man. men can not
>be returned to life at this point in time.
Ok bad example !
>
>>
>> You can like CP has much has you want it just won't make it come back
>> ! Even the precious Gibson doesn't write CP anymore !
>
>cynic. yo0u have no imagination. if you continue to be such a grumpy
>cynic, i shall hit you with a wet GM flounder!
Ok then ! Sterling said he will not touch CP anymore.
>
>>
>> There is a couple of author that write CP some bad, some good, some
>> awful crap .... but there is also some writer writing play in the
>> Shakespeare style but it doesn't make them avant-gardist at all, mere
>> copy cat .
>>
>
>yet again, i feel i am telling you something you already know, Shakespeare
>was not a genre. he was a man. and he was not the only good writer from
>that era
>see: John Ford; Robert Greene; Thomas Heywood; Ben Jonson; Thomas Kyd.
>
>i especially like Ben Johnson. some of his plays were far superior to
>Shakespeare's, it's a shame that he isn't wider known. Volpone is
>brilliant!
Ok ! Good example this time but bad way to put it !?
>
>> Of course there is some very good Post-CP writers but they kind of
>> moved on to something else and I don't think that it should entirely
>> be refereed to has CP.
>
>and i don't believe it is. however, i am unsure that "Post-CP" is an
>official term? you can't have Post Romance, or can you? Post science
>fiction? it all sounds like crap blown out of the arses of a couple of
>media exec's snorting too much cocaine.
>
I like Post-CP because it kind of mean that they have moved on to
something else. For example Blood Electric form Kenji Siratori. I
would call that post-CP because it doesn't look like anything that was
ever done by "CP" authors but still, in it, you can find some of the
basic rules of CP but it is so much more evolve. Of course we can't
come up with a genre for every book but still, genre can evolve in
something else. ?
Other example : I am reading Gridlinked by Neal Asher. The book is
kind of half CP half Sci-Fi. So do I say that it is a Sci-Fi book with
a dash of CP ? But the genre is actually growing. So what about
Post-CP ... ?
And what about the matrix and it's so growing number of copycat ? Do
you consider the matrix to be CP ?
People are so confuse ... in the CP community on Orkut there was a
tread about "some CP movie" and (I almost vomited then) people
actually gave names for CP movie such has : The net, Aliens, Hacker
takedown, The Fifth Element, Mad Max, Trainspotting, 007 ... I will
stop there I am about to vomit again ....
God there is so much confusion between near future, sci-fi and CP ...
Anyway i am getting of topic again so I will just stop there and wait
for an other of your very pleasing and distracting reply !
:)
>just my 2p
>
>goobies
Lets email sterling !! bruces@well.com ;)
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