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   From: edgarhentai@gmail.com   
      
    On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 21:39:50 GMT, alias  wrote:   
      
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   > EDgAr Hentai  wrote:   
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   >> >> You can like CP has much has you want it just won't make it come back   
   >> >> ! Even the precious Gibson doesn't write CP anymore !   
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   >> >cynic.  yo0u have no imagination.  if you continue to be such a grumpy   
   >> >cynic, i shall hit you with a wet GM flounder!   
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   >> Ok then ! Sterling said he will not touch CP anymore.   
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   >no matter what he said the choice was taken out of his hands years ago.   
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   >Bruce can't touch anything anymore.   
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   >> >and i don't believe it is.  however, i am unsure that "Post-CP" is an   
   >> >official term?  you can't have Post Romance, or can you? Post science   
   >> >fiction?  it all sounds like crap blown out of the arses of a couple of   
   >> >media exec's snorting too much cocaine.   
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   >> I like Post-CP because it kind of mean that they have moved on to   
   >> something else. For example Blood Electric form Kenji Siratori. I   
   >> would call that post-CP because it doesn't look like anything that was   
   >> ever done by "CP" authors but still, in it, you can find some of the   
   >> basic rules of CP but it is so much more evolve. Of course we can't   
   >> come up with a genre for every book but still, genre can evolve in   
   >> something else. ?   
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   >> Other example : I am reading Gridlinked by Neal Asher. The book is   
   >> kind of half CP half Sci-Fi. So do I say that it is a Sci-Fi book with   
   >> a dash of CP ? But the genre is actually growing. So what about   
   >> Post-CP ... ?   
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   >> And what about the matrix and it's so growing number of copycat ? Do   
   >> you consider the matrix to be CP ?   
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   >> People are so confuse ... in the CP community on Orkut there was a   
   >> tread about "some CP movie" and (I almost vomited then) people   
   >> actually gave names for CP movie such has : The net, Aliens, Hacker   
   >> takedown, The Fifth Element, Mad Max, Trainspotting, 007 ... I will   
   >> stop there I am about to vomit again ....   
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   >> God there is so much confusion between near future, sci-fi and CP ...   
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   >> Anyway i am getting of topic again so I will just stop there and wait   
   >> for an other of your very pleasing and distracting reply !   
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   >what was called "cyberpunk" fiction has a wide ranging diversity.. the   
   >common thread through all of it was one simple theme, future shock.   
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   >the stuff evolved out of our difficulty adjusting to rapid change.  i   
   >don't know how old u are Edgar.. but i am old enough to recall a time   
   >when i could not comprehend the concept of "the internet" .. when it was   
   >all new.. and when none of it made any sense.   
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   >anyone who claims a different expierence is either lying, under 25, or   
   >an old hacker from back when "hacker" was still a compliment.   
      
   That would be exactly one of my point ! The only reason that CP is   
   still around and works "great" with the teen is because, now, it's   
   easy ! God a ten y.o. can understand Neuromancer or heavy weather now   
   ... No more challenge at all ...   
      
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   >everything changed, it was a massive shift.. the strain of this shift   
   >created CP.. however its been 20 years now.. and CP is gone.   
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   >why?   
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   >because nothing has stopped shifting.  .. there is so much constant   
   >change that change itself has become our idea of normal.  so the things   
   >u see in the media now that have "CP" roots (The Matrix, etc) are   
   >nothing special.. its just the usual media hacks mining our culture for   
   >more tired old bullshit to spoonfeed ur neighboors.   
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   >cyberpunk was about edge, and that edge has little to do with technology   
   >anymore.. because technology is no longer shocking.. its a fact of life.   
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   >the PC is as common and invisible as the telephone.. they truly do not   
   >matter.   
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   >so.. IMO u do urself a disservice with the label "Post-CP" .. don't   
   >bother paying homage to the dead.. this is the 21st century man.   
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   >creamte the fucker and move on.   
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   >alias   
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   >> Lets email sterling !! bruces@well.com   ;)   
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   >the 1st email i ever wrote was to that address ^^   
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   >and i'll say this.. in 1989 he was a good guy.   
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   >pity his heart died before the rest of him.   
      
      
   I don't want people to get me wrong ! I did not come here to bash CP   
   !! I love it ! Most of the time it is all that I read and it can be   
   has much has one book a week so ....   
      
   Anyway ... !   
      
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