From: goobs23_nospam_@hotmail.com   
      
   HEY!!! what's wrong with Lit majors????? Do we go around measuring   
   dimensions on the millenium falcon? no! we merely write about it!   
      
   afterall, isn't CP a literature based phenomenon??? i know a lot of science   
   fiction fans who never took science. besides, i didn't think you science   
   g33ks could read english anyways! i thought you all majored in Klingon or   
   something!   
      
   oh, and Alias. you could never conform even if Armani dressed you himself!   
   you ooze trouble hehehehe.   
      
   goobies   
      
      
      
   "alias" wrote in message   
   news:MPG.1c50dc1f75853674989680@news.individual.net...   
   > In article <1105521464.837825.13460@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,   
   > m.butcher@liv.ac.uk says...   
   >   
   >   
   > > > see.. this is my thing.. who cares? personally i just wear whatever   
   > > is   
   > > > comfortable, clean, and likely to get me laid on a regular basis.   
   > > >   
   > > > to each his own.. but IMHO these are the 3 great rules of clothes.   
   > > >   
   > > >   
   > > They ARE great rules. And the first 2 are pretty easy to follow. The   
   > > last one - now that's interesting. Surely if something is "likely to   
   > > get {one} laid on a regular basis" it would have some element of   
   > > style/quirkiness. Obviously, the trenchcoat-black shades might work   
   > > for some, but in a pub/club you're gonna need something a bit more   
   > > chilled, neh?   
   > > So, without reference to cyberdog.net or argoth.co.uk or ebay, what   
   > > clothing that is non-stlyish is likely to get one laid on a regular   
   > > basis? If not for me, answer this for the benefit of man-kind! We   
   > > need help!   
   > >   
   > >   
   >   
   >   
   > got to a mall. find a chain store, like the gap or abercrombie.   
   >   
   > conform till it hurts.   
   >   
   >   
   > [snip]   
   >   
   > > > > I always considered his work to be of minor importance to CP - the   
   > > > > consideration of the future with, what I thought to be, a   
   > > pessimistic   
   > > > > spin on it. I'm not calling him foundation stone of CP, but I am   
   > > > > calling him a leading author in the field of SF that comes closest   
   > > to   
   > > > > CP (that makes no sense at all, but I hope you get my drift).   
   > > After   
   > > > > all, no-one reads CP without a grounding in SF. And Mr Asimov is   
   > > > > about as close to SF 101 as any of us will ever get.   
   > > >   
   > > >   
   > > > no one gets into cp without knowing how to read. this does not make   
   > > library   
   > > > science cyberpunk.   
   > >   
   > > You see, I'd disagree. Without science, I would never have made it   
   > > into CP. I doubt a historian, eng lit, or languages student would find   
   > > themselves enjoying CP to the same extent you or I do, because our   
   > > science background, either in school sciences, computer tech or   
   > > whatever, allows us to perhaps appreciate how reality could become like   
   > > the books.   
   > >   
   >   
   > for the record.. i have no formal education in computers or science of   
   > any stripe.. the only math class i recall taking was a mandatory algebra   
   > course .. there was one called "Science Fiction in Literature" .. but i   
   > got thrown out of it inside of a week..   
   >   
   > still.. over the last decade i have managed to accumulate over 300 gold   
   > standard cyberpunk points, even with this terrible handicap!   
   >   
   > (i am the english major from ur example ; )   
   >   
   >   
   > > Anyway, just to be awkward, I've been reading around Discourse Theory.   
   > > Apparently, our language is defined by our interactions with reality -   
   > > and probably vice versa. If we take an author to be being influenced   
   > > by reality and writing a perverted view of it, then the slow death of   
   > > CP over the last 10 years (in that it's turned more into SF or "true"   
   > > CP just isn't being written) could be explained because writers are   
   > > finding it harder to dissociate their view of a "CP-real-future" from   
   > > the actual world we live in.   
   >   
   > way to reverbiagize yo! u too can be a marketing exec!   
   >   
   > like i said.. IMO the cause was a simple one.. rapid change at a rate   
   > the culture couldn't absorb.. when that state of constant change became   
   > the norm it was no longer interesting.   
   >   
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   > alias   
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