From: this@are.email   
      
   In article <1105521464.837825.13460@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,   
   m.butcher@liv.ac.uk says...   
      
      
   > > see.. this is my thing.. who cares?  personally i just wear whatever   
   > is   
   > > comfortable, clean, and likely to get me laid on a regular basis.   
   > >   
   > > to each his own.. but IMHO these are the 3 great rules of clothes.   
   > >   
   > >   
   > They ARE great rules.  And the first 2 are pretty easy to follow.  The   
   > last one - now that's interesting.  Surely if something is "likely to   
   > get {one} laid on a regular basis" it would have some element of   
   > style/quirkiness.  Obviously, the trenchcoat-black shades might work   
   > for some, but in a pub/club you're gonna need something a bit more   
   > chilled, neh?   
   > So, without reference to cyberdog.net or argoth.co.uk or ebay, what   
   > clothing that is non-stlyish is likely to get one laid on a regular   
   > basis?  If not for me, answer this for the benefit of man-kind!  We   
   > need help!   
   >   
   >   
      
      
   got to a mall.  find a chain store, like the gap or abercrombie.   
      
   conform till it hurts.   
      
      
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   > > > I always considered his work to be of minor importance to CP - the   
   > > > consideration of the future with, what I thought to be, a   
   > pessimistic   
   > > > spin on it.  I'm not calling him foundation stone of CP, but I am   
   > > > calling him a leading author in the field of SF that comes closest   
   > to   
   > > > CP (that makes no sense at all, but I hope you get my drift).   
   > After   
   > > > all, no-one reads CP without a grounding in SF.  And Mr Asimov is   
   > > > about as close to SF 101 as any of us will ever get.   
   > >   
   > >   
   > > no one gets into cp without knowing how to read.  this does not make   
   > library   
   > > science cyberpunk.   
   >   
   > You see, I'd disagree.  Without science, I would never have made it   
   > into CP.  I doubt a historian, eng lit, or languages student would find   
   > themselves enjoying CP to the same extent you or I do, because our   
   > science background, either in school sciences, computer tech or   
   > whatever, allows us to perhaps appreciate how reality could become like   
   > the books.   
   >   
      
   for the record.. i have no formal education in computers or science of   
   any stripe.. the only math class i recall taking was a mandatory algebra   
   course .. there was one called "Science Fiction in Literature" .. but i   
   got thrown out of it inside of a week..   
      
   still.. over the last decade i have managed to accumulate over 300 gold   
   standard cyberpunk points, even with this terrible handicap!   
      
   (i am the english major from ur example ; )   
      
      
   > Anyway, just to be awkward, I've been reading around Discourse Theory.   
   > Apparently, our language is defined by our interactions with reality -   
   > and probably vice versa.  If we take an author to be being influenced   
   > by reality and writing a perverted view of it, then the slow death of   
   > CP over the last 10 years (in that it's turned more into SF or "true"   
   > CP just isn't being written) could be explained because writers are   
   > finding it harder to dissociate their view of a "CP-real-future" from   
   > the actual world we live in.   
      
   way to reverbiagize yo! u too can be a marketing exec!   
      
   like i said.. IMO the cause was a simple one.. rapid change at a rate   
   the culture couldn't absorb.. when that state of constant change became   
   the norm it was no longer interesting.   
      
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