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   goobs to Practical Mystic   
   Re: REALLY STUPID THREADS WITH NO POINT   
   21 Jan 05 20:51:01   
   
   From: goobs23_nospam_@hotmail.com   
      
   where do they get their figures from???  do these people *actually* waste   
   time looking up percentages?   
      
   everyone knows that there is no point generalising and that 90% of people   
   believe that over 2/3rds of all statistics are made up.   
      
   it's true!  i know, it happened to a friend of my great uncle's   
   sister-in-law!   
      
   goobies ;o)   
      
   "Practical Mystic"  wrote in message   
   news:AFcId.17966$wi2.1238@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...   
   > As to the majority of us Citizens being stupid, are YOU aware that   
   > 68% of Bush Supporters believe we found WMD in Iraq? At 52% of the vote,   
   > that makes   
   > slightly over 1/3 of voters so ill informed as to believe the EXACT   
   OPPOSITE   
   > of what   
   > really happened. Make your own judgment. I think Stupid(?) no, Ignorant   
   and   
   > out of touch   
   > for sure.   
   >   
   > As to attacking Iraq, it was a sham built upon lies and innuendo (look it   
   > up). We all see that   
   > now. Your only case is "Saddam was a bad guy. He was mean to his own   
   > people." With   
   > that for criteria we should invade half the Globe. Why pick Iraq? No   
   reason   
   > but Oil. It's   
   > the only difference between Iraq and any of a dozen African nations, just   
   > for starts.   
   >   
   > So now Iraq is supposed to be some haven for Alcaida. Not then. Maybe now.   
   > Back   
   > then Saddams Iraq was on Bin Ladens shit list just below the US and Saudi   
   > Arabia.   
   > It was a Secular government and Bin Laden wants all Arabic countries   
   > governed like   
   > Iran, a Muslim State run by the Malas and Omans. He was after Iraq, just   
   not   
   > on the top   
   > of his list. Saddam never trained, gave refuge to, or other wise supported   
   > Alcaida. They   
   > were enemies. The weak innuendo and half truth used by the Bushistas to   
   say   
   > differently   
   > only worked because of the near complete ignorance of Americans to the   
   > issues along with   
   > the fact that Iraq was already seen as an enemy.   
   >   
   > Was Bush stupid? No, crazy like a fox, never stupid. Was his Cabinet   
   stupid?   
   > No.   
   > Following a Nutt Job, maybe, but not stupid. Were the American Public   
   > stupid? No.   
   > Ill Informed, Ignorant and therefore easily led certainly, and still are.   
   >   
   > So Bush had to do something after 911. True. He did, we were and it was   
   good   
   > until   
   > we started chasing rabbits. The action in Afghanistan was correct, proper,   
   > measured and   
   > effective. We should have had a few more troops in and we should have done   
   > our own fighting   
   > instead of allowing the War Lords to let Bin Laden escape. But, all in   
   all,   
   > what we did there was   
   > both appropriate and professionally done.   
   >   
   > Instead of finishing the job, co-President Chaney decided we needed to   
   > attack Iraq. Ignoring   
   > the facts, the judgment of previous Administrations, World Opinion, UN   
   > mandates and the   
   > Long Term good interests of the American Public, he began a campaign to   
   sell   
   > his war to the   
   > American People. I lost track of how many ideas were floated in November   
   of   
   > 2001, but they   
   > finally got some traction on WMD and squelched any Media debate on the   
   > topic.   
   >   
   > Now you know the rest of the story. That's how I remember it. Were you   
   > paying attention? I   
   > know you were here then. Care to discuss it? Or will you just make fun or   
   > change the subject?   
   > That's the common Neo-Con response since you can't stay with the facts   
   > because the facts   
   > don't support your case. (See Condy Rice and her Senate hearing transcript   
   > with Senator   
   > Feinstein for one example.)   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   > "cr"  wrote in message   
   > news:YDRvd.89$2_4.24@okepread06...   
   > > So you're saying the stupidest man in the world twice won the election   
   for   
   > > the most powerful country in the world????    Does that mean that   
   a   
   > > majority of the people in this great land are stupid?  Well count me in   
   on   
   > > that "stupid" majority.   
   > >   
   > > As far as attacking IraK?, let's review again the pictures, sadness,   
   3000   
   > > lives lost on 9/11 - would you have your president stick his head in the   
   > > sand like an ostritch, "play like" it never happened, say "tsk tsk" boys   
   > > will be boys - NOT - there is no country on the world maps that is named   
   > > "TERRORIST", where all those kind congregate, which would be easy for US   
   > > to   
   > > wipe out - the only alternative is to look at those countries who   
   harbor,   
   > > support and finance terrorism - Afghanistan and Iraq to name a few - and   
   > > as   
   > > far as I am concerned that includes Iran AND Saudi Arabia!   
   > >   
   > > What would the American people have thought if the president did   
   nothing!   
   > >   
   > > But isn't it great to live in a land of such diversity that all sides   
   are   
   > > allowed to voice their beliefs in a CIVIL way?? though some of the   
   > > carrying   
   > > on about dubya has been severely less than civil.   
   > >   
   > > Say did those liberal Hollywood/entertainment-group nuts ever move   
   > > overseas   
   > > like they have promised the last two elections if dubya won??   
   > >   
   > > Hmmmmm...........   
   > >   
   > > Anyhow.........God Bless America, hooray for the good ol' 1st amendment   
   > > guaranteeing our freedon of speech.   
   > >   
   > > Regards,   
   > >   
   > > Clar   
   > >   
   > > P.S. It's also sad that many people boil the elections down to "the   
   lesser   
   > > of two evils"............. gee whiz, if you believe a certain way then   
   > > support the candidate who most closely represents those beliefs.   
   > >   
   > > P.P.S - My conscience is clear, I sleep well at nights, have no regrets.   
   > >   
   > >   
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   > >   
   > > "Daniel Pelchat"  wrote in message   
   > > news:Abd9d.5369$pF5.69859@wagner.videotron.net...   
   > >> Everywhere around the world, people don't understand   
   > >> why Americans would vote for Bush again. It's   
   > >> obvious he's dumb and idiot. He had no reason to   
   > >> attack IRAK and still can't agree with that. A guy   
   > >> who can't see he made a mistake is an idiot. He   
   > >> lied to the American people and they're happy with   
   > >> that. Even if Kerry changed his idea, he's still   
   > >> sincere and I think it's the less bad choice.   
   > >>   
   > >> It's my opinion and don't answer dumb things like   
   > >> f*ck you or other impolite things. Try to be   
   > >> creative a little.   
   > >>   
   > >> Daniel   
   > >>   
   > >> Rick wrote:   
   > >> > "George W. Bush is stupid, and he appeals to stupid people."   
   > >> > -- Ralph Barbieri, 9/30/04   
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