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   mir to Mr. Mi-go   
   Re: Dogpunk   
   21 Oct 09 17:04:17   
   
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   From: none@example.com   
      
   On Sat, 16 May 2009 12:14:40 -0700, Mr. Mi-go wrote:   
      
   > Diogenes would certainly say that "civilization" is regressive, and   
   > quite a few other thinkers on this subject as well. Freedom is the   
   > ability to say what you want when you want, go where you please when you   
   > please and be a civil human being in barbarous places. It also means you   
   > can be barbarbous in civil places. Freedom means realizing that decorum   
   > is something that is imposed from without, but at such an early stage of   
   > development that it makes that little "man inside", which then makes it   
   > SO easy to take orders and ignore WHAT IS REALLY HAPPENING.   
   >   
   > Further, WHAT IS REALLY HAPPENING, while bad at first becomes so much   
   > worse later on that even if you do know about it the unconscious memory   
   > of it is so painful that one becomes blinded to the very idea that there   
   > is something nasty afoot. How this relates to aging is even more insane   
   > from an existential level, but that is an inner inner secret and YOUR   
   > NOT READY FOR IT YET.   
   >   
   > We, and by that I mean YOU, who obviously aren't anywhere near as smart   
   > as I am, are being duped, and at this stage by ourselves as well.   
   > Everything we know is true, and everything we think we know about that   
   > is false.   
   >   
   > This time IT IS NOT A PARADOX.   
   >   
   > What's really horrible is that we've become so acclimed to the situation   
   > that we neither understand how to consciously live with the situation,   
   > so we "go to sleep". Then figuring out how to break the habits that have   
   > held us in this state becomes a matter of backsliding into a cesspool we   
   > know is there waiting on us if we don't keep running for the addicitons.   
   >   
   > Then, and it gets worse, if we DO bite the hand that feeds in the system   
   > we lose out on the means to support ourselves, because we never took the   
   > time to LEARN HOW. So it stands to reason that we are, in no uncertain   
   > terms, IN A PRISION. Only our forgotten instincts (are they real?) or   
   > newly implanted survival skills can adjust the interior situation in   
   > just the right way to "let the dogs out". Dom De Luise said, of course   
   > that, All Dogs Go to Heaven, so that might be a good thing. Think quick!   
   >   
   > On top of that, the cultures we enjoy, both directly when we like them,   
   > and indirectly when we feel rewarded for criticizing them, are supposed   
   > to be `consensual illusions used to gloss over the incontrivertible fact   
   > that we are being fucked, duped, pilched, sumped, and not even properly   
   > rewarded for services rendered, filled with all sorts of reactionary   
   > stupidities to deal with it, become ever more crippled to truth,   
   > latching on to delusion after delusion like a junkie needs a fix. The   
   > ACTUAL dope is better than the pseudo-dope btw, but I wouldn't   
   > reccommend that unless you know what you're doing, dumbass.   
   >   
   > We have dwelt in the "black iron prison", which itself is ornately   
   > decorated in EXACTLY the fashion that would most pacify, reward, punish,   
   > and soothe us that we quickly forget anything about ourselves that is   
   > REAL.  What's worse the concept of REALITY is made out to be (in our   
   > wonderfully conditioned imaginations) so completely monstrous in   
   > comparison to the Fantasy We've Become as totally willing dupes to a Con   
   > game we actively participated in to protect us from OUR UNKNOWN SELVES.   
   > Fucking Daises isn't it?   
   >   
   > If the present system is in a moral-economic-mental-cultural-add your   
   > category of choice decay mode right now then very REAL people are in   
   > very REAL danger of personal extinction and all the hard-on apocalyptic   
   > wankers out there are laughing themselves to the grave too. Only there   
   > is a HELL there too, and I'm the FUCKING BOSS MAN! 20,000 years at the   
   > mines sound good to YOU?????   
   >   
   > The more YOU/ME/WE limit ourselves to limit ourselves the more   
   > exponential the process becomes. Fight Club for instance was an example   
   > of this liberation by asceticism, falling into grassroots monkeyshine   
   > fascism, as much as Eyes Wide Shut exemplified liberation by excess,   
   > supported by Capitalistic Moneyblood Elitism.   
   >   
   > Having just thought about that for a second I want you, the reader, to   
   > realize that you've just used the same kind of learning style that you   
   > probably picked up in school. Which means you are using a system you   
   > willingly accepted to be true to validate your understanding of an idea.   
   >   
   > The ideas ARE demons. Meme's that convieniently prevent YOU from   
   > recognizing the "me" you'd have if you hadn't been colonized.   
   >   
   > Colonization, in and of itself this is a natural process, but since it's   
   > been going on SO long and the Meme's have become SO enormous, and SO   
   > very selfish egregores it's definitely almost beyond sanity to call   
   > anybody else a "they/m". "They" too suffer from what ails YOU.   
   >   
   > If it is a jungle outside of the prison, then perhaps jungle rules   
   > apply. Yet if civilization has ascended from it's primitive state   
   > (dubious AT BEST), are the rules of the jungle timeless, or are there   
   > new ways of pursuing a native life that don't imply the old?   
   >   
   > Do people want to give up their convieniences, the con that runs through   
   > their veins, the lifeblood of their present state, just to be "free and   
   > natural wo/men"?   
   >   
   > Who is calling up new ideas, new strategies, new innovations, who still   
   > remembers the OLD WAYS CLEARLY! Have any of you jackasses even read Back   
   > to Eden by Jethro Kloss?   
   >   
   > -Doktor Nu-Righteous hissself   
      
   Sorry, I was not listening   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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