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|    mir to Mr. Mi-go    |
|    Re: Dogpunk    |
|    21 Oct 09 17:04:17    |
      a30af844       From: none@example.com              On Sat, 16 May 2009 12:14:40 -0700, Mr. Mi-go wrote:              > Diogenes would certainly say that "civilization" is regressive, and       > quite a few other thinkers on this subject as well. Freedom is the       > ability to say what you want when you want, go where you please when you       > please and be a civil human being in barbarous places. It also means you       > can be barbarbous in civil places. Freedom means realizing that decorum       > is something that is imposed from without, but at such an early stage of       > development that it makes that little "man inside", which then makes it       > SO easy to take orders and ignore WHAT IS REALLY HAPPENING.       >       > Further, WHAT IS REALLY HAPPENING, while bad at first becomes so much       > worse later on that even if you do know about it the unconscious memory       > of it is so painful that one becomes blinded to the very idea that there       > is something nasty afoot. How this relates to aging is even more insane       > from an existential level, but that is an inner inner secret and YOUR       > NOT READY FOR IT YET.       >       > We, and by that I mean YOU, who obviously aren't anywhere near as smart       > as I am, are being duped, and at this stage by ourselves as well.       > Everything we know is true, and everything we think we know about that       > is false.       >       > This time IT IS NOT A PARADOX.       >       > What's really horrible is that we've become so acclimed to the situation       > that we neither understand how to consciously live with the situation,       > so we "go to sleep". Then figuring out how to break the habits that have       > held us in this state becomes a matter of backsliding into a cesspool we       > know is there waiting on us if we don't keep running for the addicitons.       >       > Then, and it gets worse, if we DO bite the hand that feeds in the system       > we lose out on the means to support ourselves, because we never took the       > time to LEARN HOW. So it stands to reason that we are, in no uncertain       > terms, IN A PRISION. Only our forgotten instincts (are they real?) or       > newly implanted survival skills can adjust the interior situation in       > just the right way to "let the dogs out". Dom De Luise said, of course       > that, All Dogs Go to Heaven, so that might be a good thing. Think quick!       >       > On top of that, the cultures we enjoy, both directly when we like them,       > and indirectly when we feel rewarded for criticizing them, are supposed       > to be `consensual illusions used to gloss over the incontrivertible fact       > that we are being fucked, duped, pilched, sumped, and not even properly       > rewarded for services rendered, filled with all sorts of reactionary       > stupidities to deal with it, become ever more crippled to truth,       > latching on to delusion after delusion like a junkie needs a fix. The       > ACTUAL dope is better than the pseudo-dope btw, but I wouldn't       > reccommend that unless you know what you're doing, dumbass.       >       > We have dwelt in the "black iron prison", which itself is ornately       > decorated in EXACTLY the fashion that would most pacify, reward, punish,       > and soothe us that we quickly forget anything about ourselves that is       > REAL. What's worse the concept of REALITY is made out to be (in our       > wonderfully conditioned imaginations) so completely monstrous in       > comparison to the Fantasy We've Become as totally willing dupes to a Con       > game we actively participated in to protect us from OUR UNKNOWN SELVES.       > Fucking Daises isn't it?       >       > If the present system is in a moral-economic-mental-cultural-add your       > category of choice decay mode right now then very REAL people are in       > very REAL danger of personal extinction and all the hard-on apocalyptic       > wankers out there are laughing themselves to the grave too. Only there       > is a HELL there too, and I'm the FUCKING BOSS MAN! 20,000 years at the       > mines sound good to YOU?????       >       > The more YOU/ME/WE limit ourselves to limit ourselves the more       > exponential the process becomes. Fight Club for instance was an example       > of this liberation by asceticism, falling into grassroots monkeyshine       > fascism, as much as Eyes Wide Shut exemplified liberation by excess,       > supported by Capitalistic Moneyblood Elitism.       >       > Having just thought about that for a second I want you, the reader, to       > realize that you've just used the same kind of learning style that you       > probably picked up in school. Which means you are using a system you       > willingly accepted to be true to validate your understanding of an idea.       >       > The ideas ARE demons. Meme's that convieniently prevent YOU from       > recognizing the "me" you'd have if you hadn't been colonized.       >       > Colonization, in and of itself this is a natural process, but since it's       > been going on SO long and the Meme's have become SO enormous, and SO       > very selfish egregores it's definitely almost beyond sanity to call       > anybody else a "they/m". "They" too suffer from what ails YOU.       >       > If it is a jungle outside of the prison, then perhaps jungle rules       > apply. Yet if civilization has ascended from it's primitive state       > (dubious AT BEST), are the rules of the jungle timeless, or are there       > new ways of pursuing a native life that don't imply the old?       >       > Do people want to give up their convieniences, the con that runs through       > their veins, the lifeblood of their present state, just to be "free and       > natural wo/men"?       >       > Who is calling up new ideas, new strategies, new innovations, who still       > remembers the OLD WAYS CLEARLY! Have any of you jackasses even read Back       > to Eden by Jethro Kloss?       >       > -Doktor Nu-Righteous hissself              Sorry, I was not listening              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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