From: Alienthe@hotmail.com
One of these days I'll try to trim this cascade...
Omixochitl wrote:
> Alienthe wrote in
> news:3F758312.60406@hotmail.com:
>>Omixochitl wrote:
>>>Alienthe wrote in
>>>news:3F57AC0C.5040300@hotmail.com:
>>>>Omixochitl wrote:
>>>>>Alienthe wrote in message
>>>>>news:<3F4296A8.4090204@hotmail.com>...
>>>>>>Omixochitl wrote:
>>>>>>>Alienthe wrote in
>>>>>>><3F3501D6.5070505@hotmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>Omixochitl wrote:
>>>>>>>>>Snoogy wrote in
>>>>>>>>>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>agreed, though PR went overboard on fashion description rather
>>>>>>>>>>than tech description and therefore suffered the same failing
>>>>>>>>>>as hard SF. though
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Or more precisely, the same failing as hard chick lit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Hard chick lit"? Would that be stories with detailled fashion
>>>>>>>>descriptions set in Harajuku or just outlandish fashions like
>>>>>>>>Trinity's wardrobe inside Matrix.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hard chick lit would be like _Bridget Jones's Diary_ and _The
>>>>>>>Girl's Guide to Hunting and Fishing_, only more so. ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Bridget Jones to Neuromancer sure is a wide span in literary
>>>>>>
>>>>>Not that wide. They're both 20th century, after all. My literary
>>>>>tastes are a bit wider than those 2 imply. ;)
>>>>>
>>>>Well, I think it sounded wide as it was, no matter the
>>>>century. Or shall we say one bridget too far? Ahem.
>>>>
>>>Heh.
>>>
>>And now in another thread it appears you enjoy generic romance
>>stories too?
>
> Actually, I dislike formula romance. Most of the romantic stories I
> like are definitely outside the genre, and the few I like within the
> genre are still outside the formula or at least kick the formula around
> (for example, _Ritual of Proof_ by Dara Joy).
Somehow a romantic streak seems a bit odd around here even though
I know of former regulars in this newsgroup who got married. The
stereotypical Molly or Trinity is rather powerful.
> Thing is, if a book is in both the formula romance and SF genres then
> the library here shelves it as SF. Which is the only reason I knew that
> book existed in the first place. I checked it out, despite its being
> formula romance, because it also looked vaguely CP. ;)
Seems strange to me that a library would stock generic formula
romance, perhaps also the librarian in charge of the shelves
agree too.
>>>>I just remembered (by scrolling back actually) that there
>>>>is another regular in this newsgroup who is into filming,
>>>>MadEvilBeats, and is even looking for a suitable movie project.
>>>>
>>>Cool.
>>
>>I haven't seen him posting for a long time now; had thought
>>this thread might make him reappear.
>
> Maybe we gotta contact him directly.
I'll CC this to him.
>>>>>>rely on you to get "Neuromancer the Fan Movie" getting off the
>>>>>>launch pad. It will of course be your privilege to cast yourself
>>>>>>in latex and shades somewhere in Harajuku as Molly...
>>>>>>
>>>>>Heh.
>>>>>
>>>>You are game, yes?
>>>>
>>>I'm not sure...
>>>
>>Why not? Outre clothing is de rigeur and now the movie Underworld
I saw a little of Blade 2 the other day, seems the female actors
had raided the wardrobes of various first person shooter games
such as Unreal, which in turn were robberies from Cyberpunk.
> Yeah, but I can't act.
Does that matter much? When in doubt, do a "Woah!" or, when
variety is called for, a "Whoa!" (note the subtle subtleties).
At least that is what Keanu Reeves does and it seems to work
for him.
>>is trying to outdress Matrix in a costume that looks like
>>outlandish boots that go all the way up to her shoulders. Could
>>this be another chick flick?
>
> Eh, maybe. Why does everyone have to raid each other's wardrobes
> instead of considering new clothes, though? I mean, even S1m0ne stole
> Matrix clothes*.
It is hard to invent new styles that look suitably outrageous;
spray painted clothing seems to work well. The Fifth Element did
a major effort to create futuristic clothing using professional
high profile designers. I think the effect was not proportional
to the effort. Anyway, latex works and when in doubt make it
tight. The box office likes it too.
>>In a way it is a little like Irma Vep too, a movie about a movie
>>made by the director to get the main actress.
>
> What else was that one about?
That is a difficult question. In a way it was a monster grade
rorschach with one of the weidrest endings I have ever seen
which made critics able to write just about anything without
fear of being disproved. Yet noone seem able to say exactly
what it meant. Deep Googling did not give any answers.
On the other level it was a movie by the writer/director to
propose to gis then girlfriend Maggie Cheung. Since they
later married it can be argued the movie was a personal
success. Then again they were later separated so you can argue
this either way, just like the movie itself.
Superficially, to borrow a favourte phrase from the critics, it
was a movie about a movie where Maggie Cheung plays Maggie Cheung
who plays Irma Vep. In spite of much strutting in tight latex
the movie was not a major commercial success.
Much was made about the movie-about-a-movie concept and I had
more or less expected something like The Player. That was a
mistake. To me the The Player made fun of Hollywood and the
audience while Irma Vep definitely made fun of French movie
industry and possibly also the critics while carefully
remaining non-humoristic.
>>>>>>Casting discussion are almost as frequent as The Question
>>>>>>but so far I haven't seen suggestions from this newsgroup.
>>>>>>
>>>>>You haven't?
>>>>>
>>>>I was a bit ambiguous, what I meant was casting people from
>>>>this group. OK, so we have you as Molly. Omar H would be
>>>>the rasta pilot, right? Sourcerer as Deane, Nesta Stubbs
>>>>as The Finn and Lev Lafayette as Neuromancer etc. This could
>>>>be fun.
>>>>
>>>Yeah. :) So who's Case?
>>
>>Uh, considering there is a love scene that cannot be edited
>>out I thought it least ungentlemanly to let you decide...
>
> Makes sense. ;) Of course I'll need some time to make this
> decision....
Do keep us all informed...
>>I am not sure Bridget's Darcy is the right choice though.
>
> Speaking of Darcy, did the ending of Bridget Jones 1 bug anyone else?
> The story went really well until the last minute when Fielding's all
> "Bridget's been wasting her time, should have just let her mommy pick
> her boyfriend in the first place!" Bleh.
Hmmm, a bit like the Japanese "Omiai", semi-arranged marriages?
Given sufficient desperation you could give this half a cyberpoint.
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