From: Alienthe@hotmail.com
Omixochitl wrote:
> Alienthe wrote in
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>>One of these days I'll try to trim this cascade...
>>
>>Omixochitl wrote:
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>>>>Omixochitl wrote:
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>>>>>>Omixochitl wrote:
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>>>>>>>>Omixochitl wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>Omixochitl wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>Snoogy wrote in
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>>>>>>>>>>>>agreed, though PR went overboard on fashion description
>>>>>>>>>>>>rather than tech description and therefore suffered the same
>>>>>>>>>>>>failing as hard SF. though
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Or more precisely, the same failing as hard chick lit.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"Hard chick lit"? Would that be stories with detailled fashion
>>>>>>>>>>descriptions set in Harajuku or just outlandish fashions like
>>>>>>>>>>Trinity's wardrobe inside Matrix.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hard chick lit would be like _Bridget Jones's Diary_ and _The
>>>>>>>>>Girl's Guide to Hunting and Fishing_, only more so. ;)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Bridget Jones to Neuromancer sure is a wide span in literary
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Not that wide. They're both 20th century, after all. My literary
>>>>>>>tastes are a bit wider than those 2 imply. ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Well, I think it sounded wide as it was, no matter the
>>>>>>century. Or shall we say one bridget too far? Ahem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>Heh.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>And now in another thread it appears you enjoy generic romance
>>>>stories too?
>>>>
>>>Actually, I dislike formula romance. Most of the romantic stories I
>>>like are definitely outside the genre, and the few I like within the
>>>genre are still outside the formula or at least kick the formula
>>>around (for example, _Ritual of Proof_ by Dara Joy).
>>>
>>
>>Somehow a romantic streak seems a bit odd around here even though
>>
>
> Romantic streak? Where? I just happen to like several exceptions
> outside my favorite genres in addition to tons of stuff in my favorite
> genres. :)
Is it possible to enjoy romance, formula or not, without a
minimum or romantic streak? Not that I know what it takes since
I was unable to finish reading one generic romantic story I
accidentally picked up.
>>I know of former regulars in this newsgroup who got married. The
>>stereotypical Molly or Trinity is rather powerful.
>
> Um, powerful and horny aren't mutually exclusive in either gender.
> Anyway, Molly would definitely beat Trinity in a fight. Speaking of
> power levels, who would win - Molly or Nell*?
Umm, I am not sure where "horny" got into this; still I can agree
that it and being powerful are not mutually exclusive.
> * let's make it fair and have Nell not call her reinforcements
Ah but that would be cheating.
>>>Thing is, if a book is in both the formula romance and SF genres then
>>>the library here shelves it as SF. Which is the only reason I knew
>>>that book existed in the first place. I checked it out, despite its
>>>being formula romance, because it also looked vaguely CP. ;)
>>>
>>Seems strange to me that a library would stock generic formula
>>romance, perhaps also the librarian in charge of the shelves
>>agree too.
>
> Libraries stock everything these days, from Nobel-Prize-in-Literature
> stuff to generic formula romance and Star Trek spinoff novels and such.
> If they don't stock something for everyone, it's harder for them to ask
> for tax support from everyone.
This sounds much like the lowest common denominator. It is easy to
sound elitist, I know, but then again being able to read and write
appear to qualify to membership in the Elite.
>>>>>>I just remembered (by scrolling back actually) that there
>>>>>>is another regular in this newsgroup who is into filming,
>>>>>>MadEvilBeats, and is even looking for a suitable movie project.
>>>>>>
>>>>>Cool.
>>>>>
>>>>I haven't seen him posting for a long time now; had thought
>>>>this thread might make him reappear.
>>>>
>>>Maybe we gotta contact him directly.
>>>
>>I'll CC this to him.
>
> Cool.
I did but the email bounced, seems his aol address is defunct.
>>>>>>>>rely on you to get "Neuromancer the Fan Movie" getting off the
>>>>>>>>launch pad. It will of course be your privilege to cast yourself
>>>>>>>>in latex and shades somewhere in Harajuku as Molly...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Heh.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>You are game, yes?
>>>>>>
>>>>>I'm not sure...
>>>>>
>>>>Why not? Outre clothing is de rigeur and now the movie Underworld
>>>>
>>I saw a little of Blade 2 the other day, seems the female actors
>>had raided the wardrobes of various first person shooter games
>>such as Unreal, which in turn were robberies from Cyberpunk.
>
> I don't play that many 1st person shooters. Hmm...what do SimCity
> characters wear...?
I have only seen the posters but SimCity looked ordinary. The
games inductry trade magazines I read at work show a lot of
tough-girl-in-outrageous-costyme in most games where just
remotely possible. Also articles on character designs and the
psycology of gaming acknowledges this character as rather
common.
In a way it is strange so many guys enjoy playing Lara Croft
and her colleagues in 3.rd person shooter games.
>>>Yeah, but I can't act.
>>>
>>Does that matter much? When in doubt, do a "Woah!" or, when
>>variety is called for, a "Whoa!" (note the subtle subtleties).
>>At least that is what Keanu Reeves does and it seems to work
>>for him.
>
> But we're talking about Molly. Playing her would take some actual skill
> (and some lack of actual stage fright too).
Well, let's add a mask to the costume. MTV cutting and shakycam
are old stuff so let's try to go for ultra narrow focus and
distract the viewers. Redo every scene 5 times and cut and
repaste. Isn't this how the boy band videos feature a minimum
or rythmic coordination?
>>>>is trying to outdress Matrix in a costume that looks like
>>>>outlandish boots that go all the way up to her shoulders. Could
>>>>this be another chick flick?
>>>>
>>>Eh, maybe. Why does everyone have to raid each other's wardrobes
>>>instead of considering new clothes, though? I mean, even S1m0ne
>>>stole Matrix clothes*.
>>>
>>It is hard to invent new styles that look suitably outrageous;
>>spray painted clothing seems to work well. The Fifth Element did
>
> OTOH, cyberpunk tends to be more subtle than other SF. That's one of
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