From: trminlxGARBAGE@bitstreamnet.com   
      
   In article <51f64020.0310310111.71193cff@posting.google.com>,   
    u01mzb@abdn.ac.uk (FixinDixon) wrote:   
      
   > Ghost   
   >   
   > If it's a DIY thing, then the subculture will either die out fully, or   
   > constantly be respawned for each generation of computer users.   
      
   this is a problem how?   
      
   > Assuming the latter ('cos true CP will never face away), each   
   > generation will add a new format of thought to the works of Gibson et   
   > al, either reaching a higher state of understanding of how messed up   
   > the world is and will be, OR (far more likely) will add layers of   
   > confusion to it, creating a semi-occult situation where true   
   > understanding of the important facts is hidden deep in BBS such as   
   > these and only those with the patience and time to fully delve down   
   > into it will appreciate the subtle nuances of it all.   
      
   as it should be, only those who give enough of a shit to go digging   
   themselves to find the real deal deserve the info. Remeber most of the   
   peopole who started the CP whatever as hackers of phreaks or even just   
   guys doing stuff did it on their own with very little help and almost   
   none were told what to do.   
      
   Just look at how many questions around here are answered with "Do a   
   search" of some kind.   
      
   > A mentor system, even in a rudimentary way, does exist through all you   
   > guys posting regularly to this site.  The 'Illuminati' idea (perhaps   
   > Cyberati? or Chromeati? as alternative names?) would reinforce it, and   
   > allow the subculture to grow and flourish rather than stagnate, only   
   > being revitalised by new members with the passing of the old.   
      
   A we can pass secret messages back and forth on a backside private   
   network located in Jersey somewhere .. no wait - we already did that.   
      
   Here's the deal kids ... "mentor" implies some sort of action on our   
   part, and to be honest I don't think most you out there are worth my   
   time. By the time you do become worthy of it you probably don't need to   
   be mentored anyway. And if our ramblings, posts and occasionally drunken   
   typing is some kind of mentor service then may the Gods help the next   
   generation because we are certainly a whole new level of contradiction.   
      
   and then there's the "who's really a mentor" side of things ..   
      
   Would the real cyberpunk please stand up?   
      
   ghost   
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