From: Raist@ask.me   
      
   FixinDixon wrote:   
      
   > 1) I am NOT a racist bigot.  I never claimed that any other country   
   > had a better record.  Even my home nation (UK) killed countless   
   > innocents during WW2.  I admire the US for the few good things that it   
   > has produced (good national park system, good hospitals, etc).   
      
   Good hospitals... that only those with good insurance have access to.   
   Don't get me started on that.   
      
      If you   
   > want, we can all search the web together and put a list of faults of   
   > all the countries up.  I was using the USA as an easily accessible   
   > example.   
   >   
   > 2) Yes, it was America (Praise to all of you).   
   >   
   > 3) My reason for posting - As the attrocities to human rights contiue   
   > to pile up around the world, as more and more soldiers die in needless   
   > combat around the world, as more and more innocent lives are   
   > threatened and lost by the acts of charcoal-black suited men and women   
   > in positions of power, what do we do?   
   >   
   > We post on a BBS.  We shout in the streets.  We try to affect change   
   > in whatever way we can.  This type of demonstration has been adopted   
   > by disaffected youth since the Vietnam War, and quite possibly before   
   > that.  That's about 40 years of saying "Please don't do XYZ".  And has   
   > it worked?  Hell no.  3rd World countries are still blowing lumps out   
   > of each other, but now they're using kids because all the adults are   
   > dead.   
      
   Please cite. Show how the situation is any different to how it has   
   always been.   
      
   > Even within our own societies, crime, drug use, alcohol related   
   > incidents...all are on the increase, as is poverty, and the gap   
   > between the haves and have-nots.   
      
   It is better than in feudal times. It is better than times where slavery   
   was prevalent throughout the world.   
      
   > I'm sure that everyone reading this is pissed off that the world has   
   > gone to hell in a handbasket.   
      
   See, there's the rub. The world isn't going anywhere. It is already hell   
   for much of the population... but here's the thing. It always has been.   
   Probably always will be. Not that I'm trying to dissuade you from   
   malking it a better place or anything. That is a noble sentiment.   
   Just... be aware.   
      
   You were asking about cyberpunks? I think the cyberpunk attitude   
   involves a bit of cynicism when regarding the world. A bit? Ok, a lot.   
      
   > And I'm sure that the 'cyberpunks' who   
   > ahve gone before us were once pissed off too.  But they faded away,   
   > joined the system.  And what's to stop any of us doing the same?  "I   
   > can't beat the system, I may as well join it.  I might be able to do   
   > some good there"...   
   >   
   > Does a single character in any CP book act like that and actually   
   > change anything?   
      
   Are any of them actually trying to change the world?   
      
   R.   
      
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