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   From: cofeature@contestably.innominables   
      
   In article , "palmer.william"   
    wrote:   
   >   
   >"Twinkles the alt.genius dwarf"  wrote in   
   >message news:821d03f0.0311060213.1f94bf61@posting.google.com...   
   >> >   
   >> >"La Maline"  wrote in message   
   >> >news:Xns942AD783C2ED3baudelaire@never-makes-sense...   
   >>   
   >> >> > Also those in question would do well to note whats on phil kyles   
   >> website   
   >> >> > . he admits he annoys people because he can here and no one is   
   >> really   
   >> >> > going to do bugger all , unlike in real life where he would   
   >> probably   
   >> >> > meet someone who really took offence. Likwise with my recent   
   >> postings   
   >> >>   
   >> >> You have an overwhelmingly unjustified sense of self-importance.   
   >> Listen   
   >> >> up.  This is Usenet and you are words on a screen, nothing more.   
   >> >   
   >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~   
   >> >   
   >> >   
   >> >Gee, where did you pick that one up?   
   >>   
   >> Do you actually think that the malignant one searched through years of   
   >> Google posts in order to copy a single phrase that you wrote? Not an   
   >> origianl phrase at that?   
   >   
   >How like a dwarf-stealing rodent to post something as   
   >ridiculous as that.    The reality is not simply that I have used   
   >the phrase "you are words on a screen" for many years, but   
   >that I have led quite a few dynamic thread-discussion on the   
   >underlying issues behind that expression in various writing   
   >and net culture groups.   
   >   
   >Therefore, it is logical enough to assume that quite a few writing   
   >group regulars associate  me with that expression, though--as   
   >the records indicate--I was not the sole inventor of phrase, but   
   >seem to have invented it simultaneously with a very others who   
   >came up with the same thing in 1996 and 1997 in groups I do   
   >not read and have never posted to.  Now, let's talk about the   
   >reasons for your extreme Bill Palmer fandom carrying   
   >you over the line into theft of copyrighted literary characters;   
   >to wit:  one alt.genius dwarf named Twinkles.   
   >>   
   >> >  Actually, I can't claim I was   
   >> >the first person in Usenet to use that particular expression.   
   >> According   
   >> >to Google, I was the FOURTH person to use it.   
   >>   
   >> Google/Deja only archives only cover a small percentage of the posts   
   >> made before the mid nineties, and it archives NONE of the   
   >[...]   
   >>No-Archive   
   >> posts, so it is no indication at all.   
   >   
   >Fiddlesticks!  If you are so ashamed of what you are doing here   
   >that you are afraid of being archived, you should stay out of Usenet.   
   >Quietly remove your self-embarrassed self to a chatroom or something.   
   >Furthermore, your argument is as useless as a blatant copyright   
   >thief's wails about being honest.   
   >   
   >We might argue that  everything Newton wrote had already been   
   >observed and recorded by an obscure  Persian scholar hundreds   
   >of years earlier, and whose entire body of written work perished when   
   >Omar burned the library at Alexandria because (as legend as it) it   
   >included "infidel words."   But we don't KNOW about any such Persian   
   >scholar who was hundreds of years ahead of Newton because we have   
   >no words to support that notion.   
   >   
   >So  much for your inane quibbling over Google what is and is not in   
   >Google.   If you can steer readers to another highly-respected   
   >archive where there is proof that someone used "you are words   
   >on a screen," in 1993 or whenever, please do so.   If you can't   
   >you might as well be nattering about the contents of the library   
   >at Alexandria, one of the many things you know nothing about   
   >(along with "the evils of derivative copyrights violations," obviously)   
   >   
   >   
   >>   
   >> >  When I first used the   
   >> >expression in Fall, 1997, two other posters had used it already in   
   >> >1997, and a third, apparently the first one to use it in Usenet, used   
   >> >it in 1996.   Before that, there is no record of anyone posting,   
   >> >"you are words on a screen,"   Even so, I will point that that all   
   >> >three uses prior to mine were in groups I don't read, so it was   
   >> >clearly a case of simutaneous invention, which "La Maline"   
   >> >can't claim since I have used the expression quite a few times   
   >> >in writing groups since 1997, as Google makes plain.   
   >>   
   >> Hey Bill, most people don't read your posts, you are one of the most   
   >> killfiled people on usenet. Did you forget that?   
   >   
   >How curoius that a fan whose fanaticism took him from reading   
   >all my posts to stealing my famous literary characters would   
   >make such a preposterous claim!   
   >>   
   >> >Actually, it is a perfectly logical expression to use.   While of   
   >> >course we are all MORE than words on a screen in many   
   >> >important ways, most of us will never be more than words   
   >> >on a screen to one another.   Yes, I have noticed some   
   >> >writing group types like to hobnob with one another, fine.   
   >> >That has nothing to do with what is most important in   
   >> >Usenet, which is what I call swimming in the thoughtstream   
   >> >(a phrase first used on this planet in my posting of March 3, 1999,   
   >> >BIG HANDS SHAPE HARLAN) which means minds interacting   
   >> > with, and being influenced by, one another.   
   >>   
   >> You poor pathetic ass, you have so few claims to fame that you   
   >> desperately note anything that you might have done first?   
   >   
   >Nonsense.   In your dwarf-stealing frenzy, you seem to have forgotten   
   >that as an immensely popular writer/performance artist, of course I   
   >would keep close track of my hallmark expressons, original coninages   
   >and nonce words, literary characters, entertainment personas, etc.,   
   >along with my copyrighted writings themselves.   Why would that   
   >surprise anyone who takes pride in his or her own writing efforts?   
   >Of course, that leaves YOU out, since your lack of writing talent   
   >and absence of originality has resulted in your stealing the famous   
   >entertainment personas of others in order to try and deceive the   
   >readers who, I strongly suspect, have deserted you in droves long   
   >ago.   
   >   
   >[...]    Snip of a few potty-mouthed puerilities spewed by   
   >         our envious dwarf-stealer as his feeble parting shot.   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   >accept no cheap imitations:   
   >the alt.genius.bill-palmer   
   >--firing posts at passersby from the window of the office   
   >above rec.arts.prose   
   >   
   >   
      
   The garbage trolls, under a flame?   
      
   You sure about that? Lamer. Pathetic. La Maline can't claim I was the first   
   one of course I would make such Persian scholar who was an overwhelmingly   
   unjustified sense of the comp flickin my bean.   
      
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